Posted August 16, 20168 yr Based on a rental car with only 28 miles when I got it, it is a nice and competent little car! It has grown quite a bit from the microcar it used to be, and it is a great size now. It has a great ride, nice power, and very good refinement, to where it could easily be a Honda or Toyota. It had a six speed auto, which did hunt around a little for the proper gear sometimes, but after learning its preferences, it was easy to drive smoothly. It reminds me a little of the first Accord - probly aboot the same size, and I remember the reviews of it used the word competent quite a bit. The little Hyundai was equally at home cruising very smoothly down the Interstate and taking the back roads with aplomb probably due mostly to its relatively light weight and smooth powertrain and suspension. Very impressive.
August 16, 20168 yr Author Those are nice too. Mrs. Mooseknuckle wasn't really taken with the Honda version. She still wants a bigger and expensiver CRV. I think she should get a Fit, or maybe a Hyundai Accent.
August 16, 20168 yr 2 minutes ago, Ralph T. Mooseknuckle said: Those are nice too. Mrs. Mooseknuckle wasn't really taken with the Honda version. She still wants a bigger and expensiver CRV. I think she should get a Fit, or maybe a Hyundai Accent. #1 had narrowed her choices down to Hundai Tucson, CRV, or Rav 4. After the test drives, it was a slam dunk for her. Great ride, quieter, and it looked good "on", as she said.
August 16, 20168 yr Author 3 minutes ago, Goat Geddah said: #1 had narrowed her choices down to Hundai Tucson, CRV, or Rav 4. After the test drives, it was a slam dunk for her. Great ride, quieter, and it looked good "on", as she said. She didn't check out the Honda RAV4 knockoff, whatever it is called? Edited August 16, 20168 yr by Ralph T. Mooseknuckle pic of HR-V
August 16, 20168 yr 5 minutes ago, Ralph T. Mooseknuckle said: She didn't check out the Honda RAV4 knockoff, whatever it is called? No. We were thinking the CRV was kind of the equivalent. Similar price.
August 16, 20168 yr 37 minutes ago, Ralph T. Mooseknuckle said: Those are nice too. Mrs. Mooseknuckle wasn't really taken with the Honda version. She still wants a bigger and expensiver CRV. I think she should get a Fit, or maybe a Hyundai Accent. How about an HRV? Those are nice little rigs. http://driving.ca/honda/hr-v
August 16, 20168 yr My wife is on her 3rd Hyundai Elantra and her latest one is a 2017 and it's even nicer than the past two she's had. Hyundai has really stepped up their game across their entire line the past 5 years or so.
August 17, 20168 yr I was seriously considering a 2016 Honda Civic EX in the past two weeks. A dealer had one used. Less than 1200 miles on it. We decided to save a little longer, and look for one next year with probably 5-10,000 miles on it for a little lower price. But it's a nice car, and a considerable improvement over the design before it.
August 17, 20168 yr Author 1 minute ago, LoneWolf said: I was seriously considering a 2016 Honda Civic EX in the past two weeks. A dealer had one used. Less than 1200 miles on it. We decided to save a little longer, and look for one next year with probably 5-10,000 miles on it for a little lower price. But it's a nice car, and a considerable improvement over the design before it. They totally Hyundaified it!
August 17, 20168 yr 1 minute ago, Ralph T. Mooseknuckle said: They totally Hyundaified it! The big deal to me was, it handled better and accelerated better than the 2013-2015. Driver position was better. Instrument cluster was better. Less body roll. Even WoLW remarked that it felt like driving from a fighter plane cockpit (odd remark coming from her). The 2013-2015 actually doesn't handle as well as my 2004. The CVT is tuned to have the feel of shift points, and is more refined than the previous years; first CVT that didn't take away from me enjoying the driving experience. Road noise has been greatly reduced, but not so much you don't know what's going on, and bumps have been muted, but not so much you are removed from a good driver's feel of the road. It took me a bit to get used to the exterior look (a little bit of smaller Accord, a little bit of Crosstour), but the driving experience makes it grow on you. I'm in the car two hours every day. I might want reliable and good gas mileage, but if a car does not have a little fun in it, it is not going in my garage.
August 17, 20168 yr Author I'm not a big fan of the artificial shift points in a CVT. Daughter #2's 2014 Civic has those, and I prefer the version in the Daughter #1's Fit, where it feels more continuous. The Fit's could certainly use some more refinement though. I do like how the CVT cars are always "on the cam", and there are no flat spots like on a conventional automatic.
August 17, 20168 yr 21 minutes ago, Ralph T. Mooseknuckle said: I'm not a big fan of the artificial shift points in a CVT. Daughter #2's 2014 Civic has those, and I prefer the version in the Daughter #1's Fit, where it feels more continuous. The Fit's could certainly use some more refinement though. I do like how the CVT cars are always "on the cam", and there are no flat spots like on a conventional automatic. The problem without the points though is that you get spots where you can't hold the car at the RPMs you want to achieve the engine's best power. This is one of the reasons some of Honda's CVTs have added a "Sport Mode" button to hold the engine at higher revs at certain places on the curve. The 2016's CVT is very smooth. I felt like the 2014/15 had spots that just bottomed out. Not as bad as the "rubberband effect" of the 2008 Priuses we drive at work, but definitely not as good.
August 17, 20168 yr 2 hours ago, Ralph T. Mooseknuckle said: I think she should get a Fit, or maybe a Hyundai Accent. She'll have a Fit if you don't let her have the car she wants.
August 17, 20168 yr Author 6 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: She'll have a Fit if you don't let her have the car she wants. Yes, I guess I have to let her have the car she CR-Vs.
August 17, 20168 yr 14 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: She'll have a Fit if you don't let her have the car she wants. I suspect she will also have a Fit if she catches you calling her "Mrs. Mooseknuckle".
August 17, 20168 yr Have I mentioned HR-V? Like the CRV but based on the Fit. May be win win for mr and Mrs.
August 17, 20168 yr Author 1 hour ago, Wilbur said: Have I mentioned HR-V? Like the CRV but based on the Fit. May be win win for mr and Mrs. Ahem. See "Honda knockoff of RAV4" above.
August 17, 20168 yr 37 minutes ago, Ralph T. Mooseknuckle said: Ahem. See "Honda knockoff of RAV4" above. Maybe, but since it's a Honda, not a Toyota, it may still be fun to drive and not have all the joy sucked out of it. Every recent Toyota I've driven is like a soy, nonfat, sugar-free decaf latte. Zero joy.
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