donkpow Posted January 15, 2019 Share #1 Posted January 15, 2019 So I was walking through the bike store and saw a bike for sale. I inquired and the salesman said it was on clearance priced @ $1100 USD. A 2017 Cannondale Touring 1. Tiagra 4703 shifter/brake levers, FD, RD. FSA compact crank. Avid BB7 brakes w/160 mm rotors. A Tubus EVO rack. Welgo pedals. Schwalbe Marathon 28" x 1.5" (622x40) tires. I put my pump and saddle, a couple of water bottle cages, and the saddle bag off another bike. I took the 11-34T cassette and mixed in a 16-27 junior development cassette. That gives me something that makes sense at 16-34T. I still need to adjust fit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted January 15, 2019 Share #2 Posted January 15, 2019 ...cool. I Schwalbe Marathon tyres, but they only make sense for me on a couple of my bikes. A Schwalbe Marathon is the only bike tyre I ever got replaced under warranty, and it was pretty easy. I get the sense the company has some integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted January 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Page Turner said: ...cool. I Schwalbe Marathon tyres, but they only make sense for me on a couple of my bikes. A Schwalbe Marathon is the only bike tyre I ever got replaced under warranty, and it was pretty easy. I get the sense the company has some integrity. I've never heard a bad word on the tire. I have Gatorskins on the other bikes and while I have no issue with them, others have expressed concerns. Frankly, when I read the spec sheet on this bike, I objected to the tire size. It's way more than you need. That being said, I think the rubber on this bike is probably a major part of ride quality. I've only ridden home from the bike shop so I haven't had much chance to evaluate the tires. The reflective sidewalls are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted January 15, 2019 Share #4 Posted January 15, 2019 ...if I could make one change on my 1980's Cannondale touring bike, it would be to allow more room for wider tyres. It's just barely tolerable with 28's, and 32's seem to be too wide for the stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted January 15, 2019 I have had good experience with 32 mm tires. They go everywhere and with some kind of flat protection, are very hard to ruin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #6 Posted January 16, 2019 4 hours ago, donkpow said: Schwalbe Marathon 28" x 1.5" (622x40) tires Hey, GREAT looking bike! But, I think those are 29" - not 28" - wheels & tires A 622 is a 700/29". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #7 Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: Hey, GREAT looking bike! But, I think those are 29" - not 28" - wheels & tires A 622 is a 700/29". I thought the same thing, but it really does say 28 x 1.5 on the sidewall. Enjoy the ride. Looks like a good one. My only question would be why don't they put cage mounts on the fork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: But, I think those are 29" - not 28" - wheels & tires A 622 is a 700/29". Wrong! Sorry. 1 minute ago, dennis said: I thought the same thing, but it really does say 28 x 1.5 on the sidewall. It has to do with the height of a mounted and inflated tire. 622 is the bead seat diameter. Now that I have disc brakes, I am free of the conventions set by "The Man". I can have as much rubber as I want in a tire. The tire is also labeled as 700 x 38c and measures 38 mm wide as installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #9 Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, dennis said: I thought the same thing, but it really does say 28 x 1.5 on the sidewall. Enjoy the ride. Looks like a good one. My only question would be why don't they put cage mounts on the fork? Yeah, it does! Wow. All their 700/622's are called 28"s!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted January 16, 2019 "The silliest answer to this question would be to say that the difference is exactly 1 inch. Another answer would be: There is no difference. Both tire sizes have the same inner diameter of 622 mm and can therefore be fitted on the same rims. In Europe, 28 inches is a traditional size for touring bicycles. In many countries it is even the most frequent tire size used. In countries outside Europe the rim diameter of 622 mm is only rarely used. Bicycle travelers who want to buy spare tires for a 28-inch touring bicycle anywhere in the world, can tell you a thing or two about it. A few years ago 29 inch tires were introduced as a new wheel size for mountain bikes in the US. The marking was created, as the MTB tires are more voluminous and the outer diameter measures approximately 29 inches. Both indications are, however, very imprecise. A less wide 28 inch tire, e.g. with a tire width of 23 mm, which is usual for a road bike, has in fact only an outer diameter of something more like 26 inches. In the case of a tire width of 40 mm, it is more or less correct that the outer diameter measures 28 inches. In the case of very wide tires with 60 mm or more, the actual outer diameter measures almost 30 inches." https://www.schwalbetires.com/tech_info/size_markings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted January 16, 2019 10 hours ago, dennis said: My only question would be why don't they put cage mounts on the fork? I forgot to say, there is an additional cage mount under the down tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #12 Posted January 16, 2019 4 hours ago, donkpow said: I forgot to say, there is an additional cage mount under the down tube. Three of my bikes have a cage under the down tube. I love it. I carry water or one of these tool kegs there. I think I might ditch my Niner fork in favor of a Salsa Firestarter so I can carry stuff on the fork. http://www.bikepacking.com/index/forks-with-bottle-cage-mounts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted January 16, 2019 What is the threaded insert inside the fork blade used for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #14 Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, dennis said: Three of my bikes have a cage under the down tube. I love it. I carry water or one of these tool kegs there. I always wonder what keeps the water bottle from getting covered in all sorts of muck. Is it more along the lines of that it DOES get covered in dirt, but once you screw off the lid, you can transfer the water to a clean bottle sort of thing? I like the idea of the tool keg for that space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted January 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I like the idea of the tool keg for that space. I do too. I racked my brain trying to figure a way to get a pump down there but was worried about the nicks and dents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #16 Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, donkpow said: What is the threaded insert inside the fork blade used for? No idea. Seems odd. 26 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I always wonder what keeps the water bottle from getting covered in all sorts of muck. Is it more along the lines of that it DOES get covered in dirt, but once you screw off the lid, you can transfer the water to a clean bottle sort of thing? I like the idea of the tool keg for that space. This. I usually just switch the cap. The keg works well. I can keep it packed for bikepacking and just switch it from bike to bike. I just keep a tube on each bike. The seat bag tool kit wasn't working for me with four bikes. Specialized makes the keg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #17 Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, donkpow said: What is the threaded insert inside the fork blade used for? Several uses. One neat one is: ...but you also have those Rando racks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted January 16, 2019 No, that's the outside ones. There are two identical inserts on the inside of the fork? At first I was thinking speed sensors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #19 Posted January 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, donkpow said: No, that's the outside ones. There are two identical inserts on the inside of the fork? At first I was thinking speed sensors? Those are seemingly for fenders, and you should be mounting fenders on that bike! I personally haven't ever used those mounting points, but that does seem reasonable. Not sure if this explanation from the webs helps: They're for full fenders. Many disc road and fitness/urban/hybrid bikes now have them here in order to completely avoid strut interference with the brake. To install the fenders neatly I've been mounting the fender, then mounting the struts sticking off into space in the general direction they'll run in from the mount, then bending one with a non-marring plier or adjustable wrench in each hand to get the strut pointing straight into the eyebolt of the fender, and then bending the other to match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted January 16, 2019 @Razors Edge, I see. Thank you very much. Fenders avoiding the disc brakes. I was going to get some fenders but they would have to order them into the store and I'm thinking about riding the bus. It's possible the fender may interfere with the holding clamp on the bus rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted January 16, 2019 Share #21 Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Several uses. One neat one is: ...but you also have those Rando racks: I have a rando rack on my Casseroll. It's great for carrying a box of donuts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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