Noah Trevor..dearie's fave & becoming less conservative

[shootingstar]

When I first met dearie, he was more conservative..politically but with empathy. 

By the time he died, he was watching Novah Trevor's political satire quite often. He liked watching it.  I just went to bed. After all,  I had to work. I read Noah Trevor's autobiography when it hit the the book market since I asked for it for my b-day.  Liked the bio alot and was impressed by his life story, but I didn't spend lots of time watching show.

Sure, we did talk politics at times.  Did we argue...not much ...because it was often similar. In fact, he would say to me We need waaaay more immigrants ..whenever there were news headlines screaming about anti-immigrant yahoos.

I'm actually not certain what happened... or maybe alot of stuff lay latent in his own life, before he met me, that was brought to the forefront later.  Does love change a person? My response:  a person learns and makes their own decisions.

[Wilbur ★]

<backs out of the room, closes the door> 

[shootingstar]

12 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

<backs out of the room, closes the door> 

Yea, germs, right? Mirage, dreams....etc.    It's not too far-fetched...for little boy who lost a father to Hitler's regime.  A person could never go far right with that type of loss. Never.

 

[Wilbur ★]

2 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

Yea, germs, right? Mirage, dreams..etc.

 

More like an easy political rant topic for me.  Trevor Noah is a network shill, nothing more.   I would agree with your mate though, we need more immigrants, many more.  If we developed the north, Canada could easily become a super-power. 

[shootingstar]

16 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

More like an easy political rant topic for me.  Trevor Noah is a network shill, nothing more.   I would agree with your mate though, we need more immigrants, many more.  If we developed the north, Canada could easily become a super-power. 

Have you read Noah's autobiography?  HIs life is quite different than in England and U.S. life.  He was raised in a fairly religious family. Because he was rasied under apartheid rule, his life has some raw interesting stuff.

Sadly, Canada is not protecting the Far North enough.

[MoseySusan]

I read Trevor Noah’s book, too. But I don’t watch The Daily Show. 
 

Your spouse was very active in urban cycling advocacy; how did other conservatives on the scene feel about spending public money on bicycle infrastructure? 

[shootingstar]

3 hours ago, MoseySusan said:

I read Trevor Noah’s book, too. But I don’t watch The Daily Show. 
 

Your spouse was very active in urban cycling advocacy; how did other conservatives on the scene feel about spending public money on bicycle infrastructure? 

VAncouver did/does have a contingent that doesn't want cycling infrastructure.  The big gain the city has is the downtown business association supports bike lanes (which happened about a decade ago),  since it still brings in customers, the cyclists and workers who work in office when required.  

[Allen ★]

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/trevor-noah-leave-daily-show-7-years-rcna50127?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

[Wilbur ★]

4 hours ago, MoseySusan said:

how did other conservatives on the scene feel about spending public money on bicycle infrastructure? 

I don't see it as a partisan issue.  If one has an interest in urban cycling, I am betting they also support the infrastructure to do so safely.   The guys I ride with are political conservatives and all of them are active in cycling advocacy or in the case of MTB riders, are active in trail conservation and construction. 

[shootingstar]

24 minutes ago, Allen said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/trevor-noah-leave-daily-show-7-years-rcna50127?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

That's main reason I mentioned Noah in the lst place. He is wise to leave the Show and free himself to do stand up comedy on tour for awhile.

When his speech at the May 2022 White House correspondents' dinner where President is there plus journalists from the industry... indicates he tries to do his research.  Wasn't sure all the different journalists he mentioned since I don't follow much on American news media main channels, but good on him.  It is a dinner to acknowledge and have some light satire about journalists and their role in society. 

It is sad that we forget their role at times amidst all the competitiveness in the free market and democracy.  He needed to remind audience and tv viewers, there is a war right now, in Ukraine where Russian journalists do not have freedom of speech (and neither do Chinese journalists in China),.

 

[shootingstar]

11 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

I don't see it as a partisan issue.  If one has an interest in urban cycling, I am betting they also support the infrastructure to do so safely.   The guys I ride with are political conservatives and all of them are active in cycling advocacy or in the case of MTB riders, are active in trail conservation and construction. 

In Canada, cycling politics doesn't get so politically divided.  It's more personal convenience/lifestyle vs. long-term goals of community good/health and urban planning design options.

[Wilbur ★]

Just now, shootingstar said:

In Canada, cycling politics doesn't get so politically divided.  It's more personal convenience/lifestyle vs. community good/health.

I think that is what I said.

[MoseySusan]

1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

I don't see it as a partisan issue.  If one has an interest in urban cycling,

Growing government spending is a key talking point for conservatives here in NM, even when it directly benefits access to local businesses, improves quality of life, and encourages growth. The city has begun building a seven mile stretch of Rail Trail through the downtown area as part of revitalization, but a number of the business owners object to spending money on “boondoggle infrastructure” that will disrupt their customer access during construction, even though the long-term outlook is huge growth in the downtown. Maybe if they were cyclists…

[shootingstar]

5 hours ago, MoseySusan said:

I read Trevor Noah’s book, too. But I don’t watch The Daily Show. 
 

Your spouse was very active in urban cycling advocacy; how did other conservatives on the scene feel about spending public money on bicycle infrastructure? 

What is important is to help people understand that cycling infrastructure contributes to the bigger long-term picture/vision of liveable/walkable neighbourhoods/good urban planning design. Safe transportation options for all age groups and all abilities

I live in a city where there is a disconnect between internal urban planning staff and the developers who just want to expand our city footprint with far too many low-density new neighbourhoods on city edges. Very costly for city long-term which forces building new water utility line, roads, transit...it all costs money to build, maintain.  Current meekness in local councillors for past few years.  Other cities have made some very bold permanent changes on major streets with bike lanes.

It's deeply shocking what has happened:  city council approval of 14 new suburban communities 4 yrs. ago. Now additional 6 new suburban communities.  Keep in mind, this is shocking municipal engineers...since it's very costly long-term to service a city with increased geographic footprint.

It's actually sick...and our city will look pretty ugly soon from a sprawl perspective.

[MoseySusan]

3 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

What is important is to help people understand that cycling infrastructure contributes to the bigger long-term picture/vision of liveable/walkable neighbourhoods/good urban planning design. Safe transportation options for all age groups and all abilities

Sounds like socialism… 

[shootingstar]

22 minutes ago, MoseySusan said:

Sounds like socialism… 

  If that's what some people want to call it. Some people get all upset about "social engineering" as soon as they hear about designing liveable neighborhoods.

My response:  so don't you want to live in neighbourhood where everything is within 15 min. walk AND you can age in place....you don't have to live in a retirement home for a long time until you are completely helpless.  You don't have to worry about giving up car driving....because everything is so close for you to bike safely or walk for a good part of the time to doctor, store, etc.

Dearie died in condo in downtown Vancouver..across the street from a major park bike route, 5 min. walk from shops (including bike store), bank, 15 min. walk from 2 different transit trains in different directions, etc.  He gave up a car when he divorced...30 yrs. ago.

I mean, come on.  That's what a liveable, active transportation oriented neighbourhood means.

[MoseySusan]

IKR?! We didn’t need a car when we visited Vancouver. And we rented bikes to ride around. Same in London and across Europe.

US cities could take transportation and urban design more seriously for the sake of future  My step-son works in property development. He tells us about the hassle of planning drive-up window access, including how to minimize traffic impact, which often involves buying additional property to raze the structures and create space for cars to wait in line. This seems absurd to me. Cars and consumers. 

[shootingstar]

18 minutes ago, MoseySusan said:

IKR?! We didn’t need a car when we visited Vancouver. And we rented bikes to ride around. Same in London and across Europe.

US cities could take transportation and urban design more seriously for the sake of future  My step-son works in property development. He tells us about the hassle of planning drive-up window access, including how to minimize traffic impact, which often involves buying additional property to raze the structures and create space for cars to wait in line. This seems absurd to me. Cars and consumers. 

I never thought of those infrastructure considerations for drive-up car service access. Sounds like sexy service for car drivers. It feels strange to be a cyclist in such a lineup for ie. bank.  I was once, and couldn't shake the feeling, a car driver would suddenly rev up to knock me down.

I am so clueless, Mosey. I didn't know how high gas went up for cars until a friend told me what she was spending every 2 wks., to drive around locally to do stuff.  Um...I still don't pay attention to gasoline pricing locally.

Note (not to you but others here on forum), in Toronto I lived out the suburbs for 14 yrs.  But I lived with subway station across the street, 10 min. walk to stores and 10 min. bike ride to major park bike pathway system that connected to downtown and northward, etc.