maddmaxx ★ Posted March 25 Share #1 Posted March 25 I wonder if they are getting out while the parachutes are still golden. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted March 25 Share #2 Posted March 25 1 minute ago, maddmaxx said: I wonder if they are getting out while the parachutes are still golden. Or before any more criminal charges pile up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 25 Share #3 Posted March 25 The media witch hunt ruined them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 25 Share #4 Posted March 25 Yes and yes. The CEO will get millions I bet. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 25 Author Share #5 Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: The media witch hunt ruined them Yes the media went crazy calling "Boeing" on non Boeing problems but still they have some serious issues to resolve quickly. Quality and documentation in the aviation business is not to be trifled with because the down side is often the death of passengers. Boeing got slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 25 Share #6 Posted March 25 9 minutes ago, jsharr said: The CEO will get millions I bet. Sad. What part of "success" is "sad"? In many cases, these guys will not only get nice going away packages, they'll also fid new homes making as much or more. Don't view it as bad for them to move on, but rather a chance to find greener pastures somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 25 Share #7 Posted March 25 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: What part of "success" is "sad"? In many cases, these guys will not only get nice going away packages, they'll also fid new homes making as much or more. Don't view it as bad for them to move on, but rather a chance to find greener pastures somewhere else. Maybe they can take down Airbus next? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 25 Author Share #8 Posted March 25 The impression of success that some have is a sad reflection on what we have become. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 26 Share #9 Posted March 26 This is the best news I've heard in recent years coming out of the Boeing camp. If they do not get more engineering focused leadership, nothing's going to change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 26 Share #10 Posted March 26 Scapegoats R Us. Heads will roll. Release the hounds! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 26 Share #11 Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Ralphie said: Scapegoats R Us. I do not think the brass is a scapegoat here. They are the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 26 Share #12 Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Dottleshead said: I do not think the brass is a scapegoat here. They are the problem. But probably not the whole problem. Shirley the board of directors is culpable too. Easy for them to say “that damn management team”. We told them not to cut corners. Harumph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 26 Share #13 Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Ralphie said: But probably not the whole problem. Shirley the board of directors is culpable too. Easy for them to at that damn management team. We told them not to cut corners. Harumph! You are correct sir! It's systemic but you cannot hope to change the culture unless you cut the head off the snake. I'm not saying it's going to improve but the opportunity for it now exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 26 Share #14 Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Dottleshead said: You are correct sir! It's systemic but you cannot hope to change the culture unless you cut the head off the snake. I'm not saying it's going to improve but the opportunity for it now exists. The biggest takeaway I have from all this is always wear your damn seatbelt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 26 Share #15 Posted March 26 Just now, Ralphie said: The biggest takeaway I have from all this is always wear your damn seatbelt! You may not want to sit in an exit seat either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted March 26 Share #16 Posted March 26 11 hours ago, Razors Edge said: In many cases, these guys will not only get nice going away packages, they'll also fid new homes making as much or more. Don't view it as bad for them to move on, but rather a chance to find greener pastures somewhere else. We had an asshole in charge of the mill for a year or so, a real prick, 60 salaried people quit while he was in charge. But what I came to say, during his meet & greet when he was introducing himself he rattled off all the high powered jobs he had had. A hillbilly in the crowd drawled "sounds like you can't hold a job" 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 26 Share #17 Posted March 26 10 hours ago, Further said: We had an asshole in charge of the mill for a year or so, a real prick, 60 salaried people quit while he was in charge. But what I came to say, during his meet & greet when he was introducing himself he rattled off all the high powered jobs he had had. A hillbilly in the crowd drawled "sounds like you can't hold a job" Yep. Fail your way to the top? Have multiple bankruptcies, a reputation for screwing customers & vendors, a shady business & social life, but talk a good game and make it to CEO and board rooms. The American way when others can pay for your mistakes. Rest assured, the Boeing folks who are moving on are moving on to GREENER pastures. They will be fine. More than fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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