Dirtyhip Posted August 12, 2014 Share #1 Posted August 12, 2014 What do you people think about the Chinese Carbonal rims? Different sticker and a better price for basically the exact same product as a Roval. I am hesitant, because I am concerned of lack of support if I have problems with them. It's tought in a bike family. You have to buy two of everything. Gets expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted August 12, 2014 Share #2 Posted August 12, 2014 Chinese Carbonal rims I thought a Chinese Rimjob had something to do with a stalk of Bok-choy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 12, 2014 Share #3 Posted August 12, 2014 No thanks. No cheap Chinese carbon wheels for me. They aren't close to the same product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted August 12, 2014 Most of our bike shit is made over there anyway, Sox. Light Bicycle is another option to Carbonal. I have decent reviews. You must have more expendable cash than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 12, 2014 Share #5 Posted August 12, 2014 Most of our bike shit is made over there anyway, Sox. Light Bicycle is another option to Carbonal. I have decent reviews. You must have more expendable cash than I do. do a little more research on the subject. Roadbikereview.com has a few very lengthy threads on the topic, so I'm pretty sure mountainbikereview.com will have some as well. Not all carbon fiber is the same, and the cheap stuff is junk. Don't take my word for it, do some research. UTFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted August 12, 2014 do a little more research on the subject. Roadbikereview.com has a few very lengthy threads on the topic, so I'm pretty sure mountainbikereview.com will have some as well. Not all carbon fiber is the same, and the cheap stuff is junk. Don't take my word for it, do some research. UTFG. I have been. K was leaning this way, because he was pretty convinced they are the same product with a different sticker. Eh, maybe I will get him the nice rovals for his birthday and I can wait for mine until our anniversary date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 12, 2014 Share #7 Posted August 12, 2014 K was leaning this way, because he was pretty convinced they are the same product with a different sticker. He is so wrong about this. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyBob Posted August 12, 2014 Share #8 Posted August 12, 2014 The better carbon stuff comes out of Taiwan, not China. Some people have had ok luck with the cheap stuff, but I've seen my share of issues. Quality control is not the greatest. I've seen cracks develop around spokebeds and brake track delaminations on several occasions. Wheels are not something to cut cost on. Just remember, your life is riding on them when you go for those QOMs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted August 12, 2014 Just remember, your life is riding on them when you go for those QOMs... D'oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 12, 2014 Share #10 Posted August 12, 2014 The better carbon stuff comes out of Taiwan, not China. Some people have had ok luck with the cheap stuff, but I've seen my share of issues. Quality control is not the greatest. I've seen cracks develop around spokebeds and brake track delaminations on several occasions. Wheels are not something to cut cost on. Just remember, your life is riding on them when you go for those QOMs...you didn't even mention the warranty problems that occur when trying to get the replaced. Even if Specialized/Roval was using cheap carbon hoops, they stand behind every product they sell. The Chinese companies don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyBob Posted August 12, 2014 Share #11 Posted August 12, 2014 you didn't even mention the warranty problems that occur when trying to get the replaced. Even if Specialized/Roval was using cheap carbon hoops, they stand behind every product they sell. The Chinese companies don't. Yup, and it can be really hard to chase the warranty stuff down from a hospital bed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted August 12, 2014 you didn't even mention the warranty problems that occur when trying to get the replaced. Even if Specialized/Roval was using cheap carbon hoops, they stand behind every product they sell. The Chinese companies don't. I mentioned that in my second sentence at the top. Support! OK, I am convinced. I need $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 12, 2014 Share #13 Posted August 12, 2014 I mentioned that in my second sentence at the top. Support! OK, I am convinced. I need $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$K should be able to get a good price from Specialized. They might not be as cheap as direct from China, but it's also a far better product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted August 13, 2014 Share #14 Posted August 13, 2014 Anyone have any thoughts/feeling regarding Neugent wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted August 13, 2014 Share #15 Posted August 13, 2014 Funny you should ask…… No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 13, 2014 Share #16 Posted August 13, 2014 Anyone have any thoughts/feeling regarding Neugent wheels?good value and a fantastic customer service record. John Neugent also owned Neuvation Cycling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 13, 2014 Share #17 Posted August 13, 2014 Just because I'm curious, why carbon wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted August 13, 2014 Share #18 Posted August 13, 2014 Just because I'm curious, why carbon wheels? Cause all the cool kids have em...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 13, 2014 Share #19 Posted August 13, 2014 Cause all the cool kids have em...... I think for many people, that's probably true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #20 Posted August 13, 2014 Just because I'm curious, why carbon wheels? Because they roll. Those babies roll fast. If you are going to lighten up something on your bike, for speed, there are two things that make a huge difference: Your fat self and light wheels. I already lost the weight, now I want wheels. My frame is carbon, my bars are carbon, my seat rails are ti, my tires are kevlar bead, and now I want light wheels. I might get a thompson masterpiece dropper seat in time too. I really love my bicycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 13, 2014 Share #21 Posted August 13, 2014 Is K thinking of the Roval Control 29, or SL 29? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #22 Posted August 13, 2014 Is K thinking of the Roval Control 29, or SL 29? He said he wants the beefier ones. Whichever those are. He said the lighter thinner ones for me. I am a tiny person. Guess I don't need beefy. HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 13, 2014 Share #23 Posted August 13, 2014 Because they roll. Those babies roll fast. If you are going to lighten up something on your bike, for speed, there are two things that make a huge difference: Your fat self and light wheels. I already lost the weight, now I want wheels. My frame is carbon, my bars are carbon, my seat rails are ti, my tires are kevlar bead, and now I want light wheels. I might get a thompson masterpiece dropper seat in time too. I really love my bicycle. Whatever works for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 13, 2014 Share #24 Posted August 13, 2014 He said he wants the beefier ones. Whichever those are. He said the lighter thinner ones for me. I am a tiny person. Guess I don't need beefy. HAHAIf EP is still 50% off MSRP, those are pretty damn cheap. No way would I buy some generic Chinese hoops just to save a couple hundred$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #25 Posted August 13, 2014 It was much more than a few hundred. More like over a grand. It's cool. I'm convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 13, 2014 Share #26 Posted August 13, 2014 It was much more than a few hundred. More like over a grand. It's cool. I'm convinced.yeah, but once you figure in loss of income due to medical leave, you actually save money by going with the Rovals. BTW, you do realize these won't make you any faster, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #27 Posted August 13, 2014 yeah, but once you figure in loss of income due to medical leave, you actually save money by going with the Rovals. BTW, you do realize these won't make you any faster, right? Shush, You. I will feel faster. HAHA They will have less drag. You have to admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 13, 2014 Share #28 Posted August 13, 2014 They will have less drag. You have to admit that. Unless your wheels are absolute crap, poorly maintained, and as old as Nate, the only difference you'll notice is in your head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr Posted August 13, 2014 Share #29 Posted August 13, 2014 Unless your wheels are absolute crap, poorly maintained, and as old as Nate, the only difference you'll notice is in your head. Is the difference noted dependent on the size of the head? If so, she should gain a lot of speed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 13, 2014 Share #30 Posted August 13, 2014 Is the difference noted dependent on the size of the head? If so, she should gain a lot of speed.... That explains a lot. I'm way faster and have a huge head . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #31 Posted August 13, 2014 Unless your wheels are absolute crap, poorly maintained, and as old as Nate, the only difference you'll notice is in your head. Dude, that is everything. My head is the thing that makes me ride fast. Positive thoughts and love. I love the Traverse SLs, and I think I am getting those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #32 Posted August 13, 2014 HAHA.... Sharrrrrr called me Big headed. My helmet is an XS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 13, 2014 Share #33 Posted August 13, 2014 BTW, you do realize these won't make you any faster, right? This. But, if it makes you feel faster, then it's worth it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr Posted August 13, 2014 Share #34 Posted August 13, 2014 HAHA.... Sharrrrrr called me Big headed. My helmet is an XS. Is it made of carbon fiber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Ungulate Posted August 13, 2014 Share #35 Posted August 13, 2014 I used to work in a chinese company. It taught me to never buy anything made in china when there is a viable alternative, those people don't give a crap about any damn thing that is destined for non-chinese use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share #36 Posted August 13, 2014 OK, naysayers. Just wait as I stack up PRs on the new hoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 13, 2014 Share #37 Posted August 13, 2014 You could stick up PRs on the old hoops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Ungulate Posted August 13, 2014 Share #38 Posted August 13, 2014 If EP is still 50% off MSRP, those are pretty damn cheap. No way would I buy some generic Chinese hoops just to save a couple hundred$. The chinese will find ways to take something round and find corners to cut. Btw, why do you have such a chick hard-on for Roval wheels? I don't know that much about them, is why I am wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 13, 2014 Share #39 Posted August 13, 2014 Btw, why do you have such a chick hard-on for Roval wheels? I don't know that much about them, is why I am wondering. Because she(and K) have been drinking the Specialized Kool-aid(and I'm guessing the EP price is pretty attractive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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