maddmaxx ★ Posted March 21 Share #1 Posted March 21 It seems that Apple's operating system is too incomparable with Androids. One option might be to break up Apple for being too successful ala Bell Labs. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/apple-sued-doj-antitrust-monopoly-biden-rcna144424 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 22 Share #2 Posted March 22 like Detroit Edison & International Transmission Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 22 Share #3 Posted March 22 14 hours ago, maddmaxx said: It seems that Apple's operating system is too incomparable with Androids. One option might be to break up Apple for being too successful ala Bell Labs. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/apple-sued-doj-antitrust-monopoly-biden-rcna144424 It is a bit of a conundrum. These massive tech companies are doing what they are supposed to do - maximize their interests even if at the cost of the public interests. But on the flip side, they live and grow due to the MASSIVE degree of protections afforded a business in US, and are thus implicitly (and explicitly) required to play by some set of rules determined by the "public". Google and Apple really have a ton of influence as well as the ability to squash competition that would normally be good for Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 22 Author Share #4 Posted March 22 10 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: It is a bit of a conundrum. These massive tech companies are doing what they are supposed to do - maximize their interests even if at the cost of the public interests. But on the flip side, they live and grow due to the MASSIVE degree of protections afforded a business in US, and are thus implicitly (and explicitly) required to play by some set of rules determined by the "public". Google and Apple really have a ton of influence as well as the ability to squash competition that would normally be good for Americans. What responsibility does Apple have to transmit good videos to your competitor phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 22 Share #5 Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: What responsibility does Apple have to transmit good videos to your competitor phone? As an "Apple guy", I want everyone on iOS! Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 22 Author Share #6 Posted March 22 46 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: As an "Apple guy", I want everyone on iOS! Do you? I don't car what "they" have. I purchased a product I liked and I'm not going to get the justice department involved if I'm seeing greener grass over their septic tank. Breaking up Bell Labs was a government overreach also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 22 Author Share #7 Posted March 22 Did anybody cry for Apple when the IBM PC standard took over in the 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 22 Share #8 Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Did anybody cry for Apple when the IBM PC standard took over in the 80's In 1990, Microsoft introduced the Microsoft Office suite which bundled separate applications such as Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel.[14]: 301 On May 22, Microsoft launched Windows 3.0, featuring streamlined user interface graphics and improved protected mode capability for the Intel 386 processor,[34] and both Office and Windows became dominant in their respective areas.[35][36] On July 27, 1994, the Department of Justice's Antitrust Division filed a competitive impact statement that said: "Beginning in 1988 and continuing until July 15, 1994, Microsoft induced many OEMs to execute anti-competitive 'per processor licenses. Under a per-processor license, an OEM pays Microsoft a royalty for each computer it sells containing a particular microprocessor, whether the OEM sells the computer with a Microsoft operating system or a non-Microsoft operating system. In effect, the royalty payment to Microsoft when no Microsoft product is being used acts as a penalty, or tax, on the OEM's use of a competing PC operating system. Since 1988, Microsoft's use of per processor licenses has increased."[37] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupw Posted March 22 Share #9 Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Did anybody cry for Apple when the IBM PC standard took over in the 80's Microsoft actually invested in Apple so they would have a competitor and therefore avoid monopoly charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 22 Share #10 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, groupw said: Microsoft actually invested in Apple so they would have a competitor and therefore avoid monopoly charges. Both realize two competing is better (for them) than 10 competing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted March 22 Share #11 Posted March 22 6 hours ago, maddmaxx said: Did anybody cry for Apple when the IBM PC standard took over in the 80's Ironically, that's about when the trouble started. Antitrust laws have been greatly weakened and ignored since about the 80's. The public is paying for it. A LOT. anti "Trust". As in, the public trust. Massive corporations with little competitve pressure violate the public trust by eliminating options that otherwise would keep pricing down. This is why watching TV now costs $120/month - with commercials. I find it interesting, though, that Apple is being targeted. The iPhone market share is 661%. I suppose the thinking is that's One company, Whereas Android's 33.9% is an operating system sold by many phone manufacturers. But if you don't want to pay $55,764 for an iphone, buy a Motorola, and learn Droid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 22 Share #12 Posted March 22 7 hours ago, Razors Edge said: As an "Apple guy", I want everyone on iOS! Do you? I went to iPhone mainly to check it out. Somethings good. Somethings not so good. Next phone I will most likely go back to Android as it's cheaper and I'm not so sure better. But that's also like saying Jesus is more holy than Mohammad. Depends on your base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted March 23 Share #13 Posted March 23 The big problem with Apple is that it wants to control the small businesses interacting with it, including prevent them from selling items from music to electronics at a lower price outside of Apple's stores even though Apple gets a cut of sales thru Apple. Apple has blocked the development of hardware and software that would let users interact between Apple and non-Apple products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted March 23 Share #14 Posted March 23 On 3/22/2024 at 9:09 AM, maddmaxx said: What responsibility does Apple have to transmit good videos to your competitor phone? It's less a question of Apple transmitting than Apple blocking anyone from creating the ability to transmit videos which a not Apple's property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted March 25 Share #15 Posted March 25 My old phone Galaxy S7 is Android. It still works and runs the few apps I will use. One of these days I'll give in and get a new Galaxy. They are on version S24 now. I'll probably just procrastinate until it dies or apps stop working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 25 Share #16 Posted March 25 On 3/22/2024 at 10:03 AM, maddmaxx said: I don't car what "they" have. I purchased a product I liked and I'm not going to get the justice department involved if I'm seeing greener grass over their septic tank. Breaking up Bell Labs was a government overreach also. The US justice system is a great reason to avoid the US. Corruption runs too deep and as is plainly visible, has nothing to do with law and much to do with politics. I have a former boss that spent 5 years in prison because of an over zealous and politically motivated DA. He was imprisoned for obstruction of justice when he took a box of personal items from his Toronto office. He had also been charged with several counts of fraud for non-compete payments with companies he had sold. All of which were dropped and the remaining two overturned. He was eventually pardoned by Trump and has been pretty successful in suing the US government for damages. He won't live long enough to see all the suits he has filed through but it has given him great perspective on America, the justice system and the common citizen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 25 Author Share #17 Posted March 25 Common citizen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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