Popular Post dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Popular Post Share #1 Posted March 29 New shifters 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Popular Post Share #2 Posted March 29 And I made a frame bag. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kirby Posted March 29 Popular Post Share #3 Posted March 29 Nice, but needs streamers. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 29 Share #4 Posted March 29 10 hours ago, Kirby said: Nice, but needs streamers. Yeah, he failed to consider how those shifters will ruin the streamer option! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted March 29 Share #5 Posted March 29 WoJSTL looked at it and the first thing that she said was "He's got it in his kitchen!" I never even noticed that. I've never used bar end shifters. Is there an advantage with them when carrying a heavy load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 29 Share #6 Posted March 29 Very colorful, and the bar tape works for Easter! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 29 Share #7 Posted March 29 Just now, JerrySTL said: Is there an advantage with them when carrying a heavy load? I dunno, maybe a bar bag makes it clunky with normal shifters? There'd have to be a reason, though, I don't think folks would add those without a direct purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 29 Share #8 Posted March 29 nice, don't see bar-end shifter too often now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 29 Share #9 Posted March 29 I approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Share #10 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, JerrySTL said: WoJSTL looked at it and the first thing that she said was "He's got it in his kitchen!" I never even noticed that. I've never used bar end shifters. Is there an advantage with them when carrying a heavy load? The kitchen is my workbench. Notice the bottle cage and park tool grease on the stove. I think the bolts were sitting on the cutting board. It has now moved to the dining/laundry three feet away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 29 Share #11 Posted March 29 Just now, dinneR said: The kitchen is my workbench. Notice the bottle cage and park tool grease on the stove. I think the bolts were sitting on the cutting board. It has now moved to the dining/laundry three feet away. Can the same workshop be reconstructed in your new place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Share #12 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Randomguy said: I dunno, maybe a bar bag makes it clunky with normal shifters? There'd have to be a reason, though, I don't think folks would add those without a direct purpose. The bar-end shifters are replacing Sram double-tap shifters. I really did not like the double-tap. I finally gave up and went old school. The thing about bikepacking is we are in the backcountry. No shop to fix stuff. Bar-end shifters are awesome. You can switch over to friction if needed. The left shifter is friction, the right is index. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Popular Post Share #13 Posted March 29 There seems to be more focus on the shifters than the framepack. I MADE IT! BY myself! I learned how to sew and made the damn thing. Martha Stewart I am not, but I did it. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Share #14 Posted March 29 4 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Can the same workshop be reconstructed in your new place? Doubtful. It's a galley kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted March 29 Share #15 Posted March 29 Bonus with bar-end shifters is that you don’t have to move your hands to shift, use your knees! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted March 29 Share #16 Posted March 29 26 minutes ago, dinneR said: You can switch over to friction if needed. My first indexed shifting bike had downtube shifters that could also be switched over to friction. It was an amazingly simple system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 29 Share #17 Posted March 29 Bar end shifters I read are ideal for long distances I read because they often don't break down. True? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 29 Share #18 Posted March 29 I used SRAM bar end shifters on the TT bikes I built. That was back in the day before electronic shifting with buttons at every hand position. There were bar end shifters on the aerobars and 3 brake levers, two on the bar ends and one combiner lever on the right aerobar. I like bar end shifters. They are simple. They work. They rarely break. They fit in lots of places 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Share #19 Posted March 29 3 minutes ago, Dottleshead said: Bar end shifters I read are ideal for long distances I read because they often don't break down. True? General consensus is they are more reliable. I would have gone with Microshift, but they are not compatible with Sram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 29 Share #20 Posted March 29 4 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: I like bar end shifters. They are simple. They work. They rarely break. They fit in lots of places The only drawback that I can tell -- and mainly for big fat guys like me -- is the brakes are dropped low. I'm usually almost always riding in a more upright position for comfort and like the height of a brifter for example. So far I've been fortunate because I've never had a brake part fail on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 29 Share #21 Posted March 29 13 minutes ago, Dottleshead said: The only drawback that I can tell - I don't think I would take to bar end shifters at all, they just aren't placed conveniently for shifting for me - I'd get pissed pretty quickly with constantly moving my hands around to shift (I shift a lot). That said, I haven't had a shifter break on me way the hell out in the middle of nowhere, I imagine that could affect how you feel about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 29 Share #22 Posted March 29 Just now, Randomguy said: I don't think I would take to bar end shifters at all, they just aren't placed conveniently for shifting for me - I'd get pissed pretty quickly with constantly moving my hands around to shift (I shift a lot). That said, I haven't had a shifter break on me way the hell out in the middle of nowhere, I imagine that could affect how you feel about them. That's more or less how I feel but I know the owners of the bar end shifters love them. I asked some old timer on the bus one day that had thrown his bike on the rack in the bus front about them and he said he had over 22,000 miles on that bike and never had to replace or fix them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 29 Share #23 Posted March 29 3 minutes ago, Dottleshead said: That's more or less how I feel but I know the owners of the bar end shifters love them. I asked some old timer on the bus one day that had thrown his bike on the rack in the bus front about them and he said he had over 22,000 miles on that bike and never had to replace or fix them. Is it normal for any shifters to need to be replaced or fixed? I did have a shift cable break after ears of neglect leaving the "head" of the cable in the brifter body. Took a bit to work that out. But that wasn't a broken shifter - it was a cable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 29 Share #24 Posted March 29 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: Is it normal for any shifters to need to be replaced or fixed? I did have a shift cable break after ears of neglect leaving the "head" of the cable in the brifter body. Took a bit to work that out. But that wasn't a broken shifter - it was a cable. I think in theory bar end shifters are supposed to be simpler. I don't doubt that. I just never had a problem with the "other" styles of braking gear. So like most things, I guess it comes down to preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 29 Share #25 Posted March 29 24 minutes ago, Dottleshead said: never had to replace or fix them. Well, you wouldn't if your shifters killed your your desire to ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted March 29 Share #26 Posted March 29 What other tape colors were available? People will point and laugh when they see a green bike with purple handlebar tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 29 Share #27 Posted March 29 1 minute ago, Mr. Silly said: What other tape colors were available? People will point and laugh when they see a green bike with purple handlebar tape. He distracts them with his good looks! No one notices the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 29 Share #28 Posted March 29 By the way @dinneR I don't think anybody has commented on that frame bag. Nice work. What's the material? Looks like canvas but I'm guessing nylon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Share #29 Posted March 29 Cordura. Black on the outside and I sewed an orange layer inside. I plan to make another now that I see my mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Share #30 Posted March 29 1 hour ago, Mr. Silly said: What other tape colors were available? People will point and laugh when they see a green bike with purple handlebar tape. That was the only color in stock at the LBS. I wanted orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted March 29 Author Share #31 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Randomguy said: I don't think I would take to bar end shifters at all, they just aren't placed conveniently for shifting for me - I'd get pissed pretty quickly with constantly moving my hands around to shift (I shift a lot). That said, I haven't had a shifter break on me way the hell out in the middle of nowhere, I imagine that could affect how you feel about them. 2 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Is it normal for any shifters to need to be replaced or fixed? I did have a shift cable break after ears of neglect leaving the "head" of the cable in the brifter body. Took a bit to work that out. But that wasn't a broken shifter - it was a cable. 2 hours ago, Dottleshead said: I think in theory bar end shifters are supposed to be simpler. I don't doubt that. I just never had a problem with the "other" styles of braking gear. So like most things, I guess it comes down to preference. I switched shifters for a couple of reasons. I really did not like the Sram double-tap shifters. Without replacing the entire drivetrain, bar-ends were the only option. Bar-ends are simple and reliable. Shit goes wrong when you are on a bike for multiple days in the backcountry. You need a plan. Look at what happened to Lachlan Morton on the divide. He had to jam a spoke into his derailleur to continue riding. Of all the shifters I have used, I like Shimano and Microshift the best. Gripshift was pretty good on mountain bikes. The ergonomics of Microshift might be some of the best I have used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 29 Share #32 Posted March 29 3 hours ago, dinneR said: I really did not like the Sram double-tap shifters. This is what I have. Mostly I like them but I only ride on the road and I could see how they'd be a pain if I was riding in gravel or back country. If find the double tap not very reliable when I need to shift quickly or multiple times. Riding those off road trails sometimes requires one to shift up or down multiple gears quickly -- which I find the double taps to be a bit distressing. Seem to work fine for me though if I'm out on the road or pavement. Those Shimano rapid fire shifters on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted March 30 Share #33 Posted March 30 8 hours ago, dinneR said: Doubtful. It's a galley kitchen. I have lubed my bikes in my galley kitchen..back in the day it way linoleum..the rest was carpet..cleaning lube off lino is way better than cleaning carpet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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