Ralphie ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2201 Posted July 9, 2020 Here is some pretty eye-opening stuff. You're right Dottles, we are a little effed up. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/27/world/europe/coronavirus-spread-asymptomatic.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2202 Posted July 9, 2020 There's nothing really new here. Asymptomatic spread is already recognized and yes it's a problem due to lack of testing. The serious news is that asymptomatic spread may be done by much smaller particles than previously realized. This puts into question the ability of industrial air conditioning and air movement in buildings to filter out those particles without modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2203 Posted July 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: There's nothing really new here. Asymptomatic spread is already recognized and yes it's a problem due to lack of testing. The serious news is that asymptomatic spread may be done by much smaller particles than previously realized. This puts into question the ability of industrial air conditioning and air movement in buildings to filter out those particles without modifications. Mostly it was the dysfunction of our scientific and governmental community for the muffling of the early warning we could have had that caught my eye. And it did erode some of my trust in the WHO, which was a little bit of a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2204 Posted July 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: Mostly it was the dysfunction of our scientific and governmental community for the muffling of the early warning we could have had that caught my eye. And it did erode some of my trust in the WHO, which was a little bit of a surprise. Correct. They should have known everything that was knowable about the virus as much as two weeks before it ever happened. What did they blow the money we spent on their time machines on? At this moment there is an incredibly good show on the cruise ships and their role in the infection of the world playing on BBC News. The shere amount of ignorance about the subject at the time caused a lot of bad decisions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2205 Posted July 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: There's nothing really new here. Asymptomatic spread is already recognized and yes it's a problem due to lack of testing. The serious news is that asymptomatic spread may be done by much smaller particles than previously realized. This puts into question the ability of industrial air conditioning and air movement in buildings to filter out those particles without modifications. And, keep in mind, the virus spreads the EXACT same way no matter where in the WORLD you are located. We seem, as a country, to act like we are somehow unique in our fight against COVID, yet we only need to look around and see what countries are effective at fighting it and do something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2206 Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: And, keep in mind, the virus spreads the EXACT same way no matter where in the WORLD you are located. We seem, as a country, to act like we are somehow unique in our fight against COVID, yet we only need to look around and see what countries are effective at fighting it and do something similar. Maybe they are listening to the WHO instead of dumping it because of distrust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2207 Posted July 9, 2020 I just read an article aboot how well Iceland did. Of course an island is a heck of a lot easier. But they did seem to have their act together more than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2208 Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: I just read an article aboot how well Iceland did. Of course an island is a heck of a lot easier. But they did seem to have their act together more than us. We have a natural set of countries to compare ourselves to. And we also have regional and ones similar in size or density. No matter how you slice it, we're in the "bad" half of all rankings Seems only the UK is kicking our butt at mismanagement. And Brazil. And then several dictatorships where reality is hard to judge. When the US stops comparing itself to peers and starts needing to compare itself to the poor, mismanaged, and/or autocratic countries, we are in desperate need of a change in direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2209 Posted July 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Dottles said: Obviously they don't care or they are under tremendous pressure to open it up. This is mostly due to completely missing leadership and trying to ignore the problem because it was too much effort to take a long view. Leadership said "masks are stupid" and the stupid people just went with it. Leadership saying "it is a hoax" or "it is like the flu" or "the other guys are just politicizing it" and stupid or ignorant people went with it. This is what happens when stupid and/or self-serving people are in charge and stupid people listen to them. We have too much stupid and/or ignorant in our country. The sad part is that, with the tsunami of evidence against "their guy/s", that they just double down on the stupid and ignorant ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2210 Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, Randomguy said: This is mostly due to completely missing leadership Don't confuse inept or downright dangerous leadership with "missing" leadership. There is a lot of awful stuff that is the result of leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2211 Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, Randomguy said: missing leadership and trying to ignore the problem because it was too much effort to take a long view. We were better off when the federal government told states “you’re on your own”. When they saw the containment battle was lost, the decision was made to make “reopening” the political battle with reelection hopes hinging on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2212 Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Don't confuse inept or downright dangerous leadership with "missing" leadership. There is a lot of awful stuff that is the result of leadership. Yes. It was better when they say little and did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2213 Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Yes. It was better when they say little and did nothing. There was a time a couple months back where there were daily press conferences. We got some great leadership out of that like the drinking bleach idea! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2214 Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Yes. It was better when they say little and did nothing. You guys are right, it truly was better before the administration went whole-hog on disinformation. That is incredibly sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2215 Posted July 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: There was a time a couple months back where there were daily press conferences. We got some great leadership out of that like the drinking bleach idea! I think that lasted for weeks, not the months that you might expect with a raging pandemic going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2216 Posted July 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: I think that lasted for weeks, not the months that you might expect with a raging pandemic going on. Is it a "pandemic" or are we just too perfect at our testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2217 Posted July 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Is it a "pandemic" or are we just too perfect at our testing? Well, it’s still raging in some other shit countries, too, so this isn’t just about our excellence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share #2218 Posted July 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Randomguy said: This is mostly due to completely missing leadership and trying to ignore the problem because it was too much effort to take a long view. Leadership said "masks are stupid" and the stupid people just went with it. Leadership saying "it is a hoax" or "it is like the flu" or "the other guys are just politicizing it" and stupid or ignorant people went with it. This is what happens when stupid and/or self-serving people are in charge and stupid people listen to them. We have too much stupid and/or ignorant in our country. The sad part is that, with the tsunami of evidence against "their guy/s", that they just double down on the stupid and ignorant ways. Again, it's very hard for me to disagree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share #2219 Posted July 9, 2020 https://www.king5.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/snohomish-county-braces-for-long-battle-with-coronavirus/281-d8cb6236-5416-4f15-9243-39a30653d29a At least my locals seem to get it. Looks like I am working from home for 18 months. Muhaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2220 Posted July 9, 2020 My sister has been exposed. Her best friend is feeling awful and has lost her sense of taste. Sister is in quarantine, both she and her friend have appointments to be tested. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2221 Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Allen said: My sister has been exposed. Her best friend is feeling awful and has lost her sense of taste. Sister is in quarantine, both she and her friend have appointments to be tested. Are they all in Georgia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2222 Posted July 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Are they all in Georgia? They are. Athens specifically. My sister went up to her lake house to quarantine away from her family. She said she was exposed about a week ago. So far no symptoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2223 Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Allen said: They are. Athens specifically. My sister went up to her lake house to quarantine away from her family. She said she was exposed about a week ago. So far no symptoms. With any luck that means she has a mild case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Share #2224 Posted July 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, 12string said: With any luck that means she has a mild case. Thanks. Hopefully so if she comes down with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share #2225 Posted July 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Allen said: My sister has been exposed. Her best friend is feeling awful and has lost her sense of taste. Sister is in quarantine, both she and her friend have appointments to be tested. Damn. I am sorry to read this Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #2226 Posted July 10, 2020 I'm just going to come out and say it. We are totally fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 10, 2020 Share #2227 Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Dottles said: I'm just going to come out and say it. We are totally fucked. It is sort of like a monkey effing a futbal. That was a favourite saying of a crusty old ex cow- orker. I should write a book, Shit my ex cow-orkers say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 10, 2020 Share #2228 Posted July 10, 2020 I got a chuckle out of this from back in the "it's all a hoax" days. Or, are we still in those days Damn measles is gonna get us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #2229 Posted July 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I got a chuckle out of this from back in the "it's all a hoax" days. Or, are we still in those days Damn measles is gonna get us all! I guess hospital beds filling up around the country is staged too? Damn those Dems have a big payroll. Either way we are still totally fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 10, 2020 Share #2230 Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: I got a chuckle out of this from back in the "it's all a hoax" days. Or, are we still in those days Damn measles is gonna get us all! There is no chance that was posted at a doctor’s office today. I think I read 63,000 new infections today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted July 10, 2020 Share #2231 Posted July 10, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #2232 Posted July 10, 2020 11 hours ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: It is sort of like a monkey effing a futbal. I might pay to see that actually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 10, 2020 Share #2233 Posted July 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dottles said: I might pay to see that actually. It’s all fun and games until the football’s pimp comes around and wants to be paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share #2234 Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: It’s all fun and games until the football’s pimp comes around and wants to be paid. POTD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Share #2235 Posted July 11, 2020 This article was informative for me. https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/?utm_source=pocket-newtab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Share #2236 Posted July 11, 2020 My sister’s friend is headed to the hospital. My sister is still asymptomatic. Still in quarantine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 11, 2020 Share #2237 Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Allen said: My sister’s friend is headed to the hospital. My sister is still asymptomatic. Still in quarantine. Happy face for your sister, sad face for her friend. About how old is the friend? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share #2238 Posted July 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: This article was informative for me. https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/?utm_source=pocket-newtab Great article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Share #2239 Posted July 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Happy face for your sister, sad face for her friend. About how old is the friend? My sister’s age. 62-63. She is overweight however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share #2240 Posted July 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Allen said: My sister’s age. 62-63. She is overweight however. It's all that tasty fried shit you've got down there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Share #2241 Posted July 11, 2020 Just now, Dottles said: It's all that tasty fried shit you've got down there. Tootsie is renowned for her cooking. Fried is for when you are feeling lazy or don’t know how else to cook a piece of fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Share #2242 Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: This article was informative for me. https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/?utm_source=pocket-newtab Very good read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share #2243 Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: This article was informative for me. https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/?utm_source=pocket-newtab 1 hour ago, Dottles said: Great article. 7 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Very good read. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 11, 2020 Share #2244 Posted July 11, 2020 Walton County Cases – 538 – That’s 11 more cases reported in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 –561.5 Total deaths – 29 – that’s one more death reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 70 – that’s two more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Gwinnett County Cases – 11,074 – that’s 333 new cases reported in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 – 1140 Total deaths – 182 – that’s four more deaths reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 1,315 – That is 47 more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours Georgia Confirmed cases – 114,401 – that is 3,190 more cases reported in the past 24 hours ICU admissions – 2,610 – that’s 45 more reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalizations – 13,205 – That’s 268 more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths – 2,996 – That is 31 more death reported in the past 24 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 12, 2020 Share #2245 Posted July 12, 2020 Not good. BREAKING: An 11-county region of Northeast Georgia including Walton is down to seven critical care beds out of a capacity of 70. Georgia saw 599 people hospitalized from COVID-19 in the past day. -- The number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Walton County was 538 on Saturday afternoon, July 11 (+11 from Friday). There had been 29 deaths (+1) and 70 hospitalizations (+2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 12, 2020 Share #2246 Posted July 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Allen said: Not good. The deaths are coming. Florida, Georgia, Texas, Arizona ICUs are filled. While we’ve gotten better at the treatments, the medical system can’t keep up with this infection rate. And the PPEs are again in short supply. 6 months in and we still haven’t gotten anywhere close to being on top of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dottleshead ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share #2248 Posted July 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Randomguy said: I don't post anything on FB anymore but I posted this. All these dumb motherfuckers I went to high school with are gonna squirm or spew their venom. And I'm going to delete them immediately from my group of friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2249 Posted July 13, 2020 Here's a depressing-ass article to start off the week. the presence of coronavirus antibodies in the blood decreased sharply after two months. This was especially true in asymptomatic patients, who produced fewer antibodies and therefore a weaker immune response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2250 Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 9:32 PM, Allen said: Walton is down to seven critical care beds out of a capacity of 70 I'd love to hear from someone like @Prophet Zacharia if 70 "critical care" beds is a normal amount for a county of 95,000 people. That seems pretty darn few, but my county is over 10x that size, so hard to compare. Seems still having 10% capacity (of normal) during the height of the outbreak isn't awful (yet), so maybe you guys won't hit or exceed the 70 beds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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