Dirtyhip Posted September 30, 2014 Share #1 Posted September 30, 2014 I think I may need to cut back on cheese and butter. CHOLESTEROL | 191 | | 140-199 mg/dl TRIGLYCERIDE | 178 | H | 40-160 mg/dl HDL | 62 | | 29-89 mg/dl CHOL-HDL RATIO | 3.1 | | 0-5 LDL CALCULATED | 93.0 | | 90-130 mg/dl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 30, 2014 Share #2 Posted September 30, 2014 SYDWM! Not much link between dietary cholesterol and blood serum cholesterol, so they say (and "they" are getting much larger in numbers). Probably best to be moderate in everything, if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtermite Posted September 30, 2014 Share #3 Posted September 30, 2014 Everything in range but triglyceride. Any idea what's up there? Forgot earlier results...are you still on the new med or did you get off of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted September 30, 2014 I am still on the new med, and the med has nothing to do with my lipid test. I think I have to cut back on my bad fats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_cyclist Posted September 30, 2014 Share #5 Posted September 30, 2014 your panel at least looks better than mine, DH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 30, 2014 Share #6 Posted September 30, 2014 I think I may need to cut back on cheese and butter. I haven't eaten ANY cheese or butter in years. My last numbers: Total cholesterol - 125 Trigycerides - 49 HDL - 47 LDL - 68 I also take 20 mg of Lipitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share #7 Posted September 30, 2014 I haven't eaten ANY cheese or butter in years. My last numbers: Total cholesterol - 125 Trigycerides - 49 HDL - 47 LDL - 68 I also take 20 mg of Lipitor. No wonder you're so grouchy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 30, 2014 Share #8 Posted September 30, 2014 No wonder you're so grouchy. I know. That's why I'm proud of my numbers. I've given up a lot of good shit to get those numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 30, 2014 Share #9 Posted September 30, 2014 I haven't eaten ANY cheese or butter in years. My last numbers: Total cholesterol - 125 Trigycerides - 49 HDL - 47 LDL - 68 I also take 20 mg of Lipitor. You might live forever if there were no gates in the world! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted September 30, 2014 I don't know how to live a life without cheese and butter. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted September 30, 2014 Share #11 Posted September 30, 2014 Well...I don't do as much butter as cheese...and I am trying to cut back...I am trying to think in terms of quality...not quantity...That usually works for a wee or two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted September 30, 2014 Share #12 Posted September 30, 2014 Oh and I am a cheeseaholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted October 1, 2014 Share #13 Posted October 1, 2014 Someone eats a lot of carbs with a trigs of 178... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted October 1, 2014 Someone eats a lot of carbs with a trigs of 178... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted October 1, 2014 Share #15 Posted October 1, 2014 is the doc ok with your trig levels? If so, don't fret it. If they are, then cut back just a bit on the carbs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted October 1, 2014 Share #16 Posted October 1, 2014 Cholesterol is a little high for a young woman, HDL looks good, trigs are high and those are most affected by immediate diet changes (including binge drinking). Your cholesterol can go up and down slowly over time mostly due to diet. True familial hypercholesterolemia is fairly rare and very serious. Most of people's high numbers are diet related and lack of exercise, we prefer to take a pill to fix everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted October 1, 2014 Share #17 Posted October 1, 2014 Cholesterol is a little high for a young woman, HDL looks good, trigs are high and those are most affected by immediate diet changes (including binge drinking). Your cholesterol can go up and down slowly over time mostly due to diet. True familial hypercholesterolemia is fairly rare and very serious. Most of people's high numbers are diet related and lack of exercise, we prefer to take a pill to fix everything. I seriously doubt we're looking at familial hypercholesterolemia with a total of 191. Everytime I've heard of that condition, it's been TC of 300+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyBob Posted October 1, 2014 Share #18 Posted October 1, 2014 I wouldn't worry about it. If my total cholesterol drops below 240 I feel anemic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted October 1, 2014 Share #19 Posted October 1, 2014 I seriously doubt we're looking at familial hypercholesterolemia with a total of 191. I agree. I guess I typed too fast and didn't more clearly imply that RG i wrong in saying there isn't much of a link between diet and cholesterol levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share #20 Posted October 1, 2014 I agree. I guess I typed too fast and didn't more clearly imply that RG i wrong in saying there isn't much of a link between diet and cholesterol levels. I don't know about that, I am still to see anything compelling about a link, studywise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted October 1, 2014 Share #21 Posted October 1, 2014 Cholesterol is a little high for a young woman, HDL looks good, trigs are high and those are most affected by immediate diet changes (including binge drinking). Your cholesterol can go up and down slowly over time mostly due to diet. True familial hypercholesterolemia is fairly rare and very serious. Most of people's high numbers are diet related and lack of exercise, we prefer to take a pill to fix everything. You're not a doctor but you play one on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted October 1, 2014 Share #22 Posted October 1, 2014 Nope, medical technologist. I haven't worked in a chemistry lab in over 25 years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted October 1, 2014 Share #23 Posted October 1, 2014 I don't know about that, I am still to see anything compelling about a link, studywise. http://www.everydayhealth.com/cholesterol/experts-how-does-diet-affect-cholesterol-levels.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share #24 Posted October 1, 2014 http://www.everydayhealth.com/cholesterol/experts-how-does-diet-affect-cholesterol-levels.aspx That is just a bunch of dork MD's saying what some dork MD first said without any real evidence a long-ass time ago. "Oh, don't swim within a half-hour of eating, that causes cramps and you'll die. Oh yeah, don't eat cheese and butter or you will die from cholesterol, too. Really, though, don't swim within a half-hour of eating butter or cheese, you will get cholesterol cramps and your whole family will die". I am waiting on the credible studies to pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share #25 Posted October 1, 2014 New study puts final nail in the “saturated fat causes heart disease” coffin by CHRIS KRESSER 181 comments For more than five decades we’ve been brainwashed to believe that saturated fat causes heart disease. It’s such a deeply ingrained belief that few people even question it. It’s just part of our culture now. Almost every day I read or hear about someone proudly that they have a “healthy” diet because they don’t eat butter, cheese or red meat or any other foods high in saturated fat (nevermind that red meat isn’t particularly high in saturated fat, but that’s a subject for another post). Or I might overhear someone at the grocery store saying how much they prefer whole fat yogurt to the low-fat version, but they eat the low-fat stuff anyways because they want to make the “healthy” choice. What most people don’t realize is that it took many years to convince people that eating traditional, animal fats like butter and cheese is bad for you, while eating highly-processed, industrial vegetable oils like corn and soybean oil is good for you. This simply defied common sense for most people. But the relentless, widespread campaign to discredit saturated fat and promote industrial oils was eventually successful. What if I told you that there’s no evidence to support the idea that saturated fat consumption causes heart disease? What if I told you that the 50+ years of cultural brainwashing we have all been subject to was based on small, poorly designed studies? And what if I told you that a review of large, well-designed studies published in reputable medical journals showed that there is no association between saturated fat and heart disease? Well, that’s what I’m telling you. We’ve beed duped. Lied to. And we’ve suffered greatly as a result. Not only have we suffered from being encouraged to eat packaged and processed foods made with cheap, tasteless vegetable oils and refined carbohydrates (low-fat cuisine), but these very foods we were told would protect us from heart disease actually promote it! The recent review I’m talking about is a meta-analysis published this week in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. It pooled together data from 21 unique studies that included almost 350,000 people, about 11,000 of whom developed cardiovascular disease (CVD), tracked for an average of 14 years, and concluded that there is no relationship between the intake of saturated fat and the incidence of heart disease or stroke. Let me put that in layperson’s terms for you: Eating saturated fat doesn’t cause heart disease. There. That’s it. That’s really all you need to know. But if you’d like to read more about it, John Briffa and Chris Masterjohn have written articles about it here andhere. I wonder how long it will take for this information to trickle down into the mainstream culture? Unfortunately it’s not going to happen overnight. Paradigm shifts don’t work that way. But I’ve seen some positive signs, and I do believe the tide is turning. Let’s hope it doesn’t take another 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share #26 Posted October 1, 2014 Goat fest was 3 days before my test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted October 1, 2014 Share #27 Posted October 1, 2014 New study puts final nail in the “saturated fat causes heart disease” coffin by CHRIS KRESSER 181 comments For more than five decades we’ve been brainwashed to believe that saturated fat causes heart disease. It’s such a deeply ingrained belief that few people even question it. It’s just part of our culture now. Almost every day I read or hear about someone proudly that they have a “healthy” diet because they don’t eat butter, cheese or red meat or any other foods high in saturated fat (nevermind that red meat isn’t particularly high in saturated fat, but that’s a subject for another post). Or I might overhear someone at the grocery store saying how much they prefer whole fat yogurt to the low-fat version, but they eat the low-fat stuff anyways because they want to make the “healthy” choice. What most people don’t realize is that it took many years to convince people that eating traditional, animal fats like butter and cheese is bad for you, while eating highly-processed, industrial vegetable oils like corn and soybean oil is good for you. This simply defied common sense for most people. But the relentless, widespread campaign to discredit saturated fat and promote industrial oils was eventually successful. What if I told you that there’s no evidence to support the idea that saturated fat consumption causes heart disease? What if I told you that the 50+ years of cultural brainwashing we have all been subject to was based on small, poorly designed studies? And what if I told you that a review of large, well-designed studies published in reputable medical journals showed that there is no association between saturated fat and heart disease? Well, that’s what I’m telling you. We’ve beed duped. Lied to. And we’ve suffered greatly as a result. Not only have we suffered from being encouraged to eat packaged and processed foods made with cheap, tasteless vegetable oils and refined carbohydrates (low-fat cuisine), but these very foods we were told would protect us from heart disease actually promote it! The recent review I’m talking about is a meta-analysis published this week in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. It pooled together data from 21 unique studies that included almost 350,000 people, about 11,000 of whom developed cardiovascular disease (CVD), tracked for an average of 14 years, and concluded that there is no relationship between the intake of saturated fat and the incidence of heart disease or stroke. Let me put that in layperson’s terms for you: Eating saturated fat doesn’t cause heart disease. There. That’s it. That’s really all you need to know. But if you’d like to read more about it, John Briffa and Chris Masterjohn have written articles about it here andhere. I wonder how long it will take for this information to trickle down into the mainstream culture? Unfortunately it’s not going to happen overnight. Paradigm shifts don’t work that way. But I’ve seen some positive signs, and I do believe the tide is turning. Let’s hope it doesn’t take another 50 years. move that goal post will ya? First you were talking Cholesterol level, now you're talking CVD.....which one do you wish to discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share #28 Posted October 1, 2014 move that goal post will ya? First you were talking Cholesterol level, now you're talking CVD.....which one do you wish to discuss? Well, why do we care about cholesterol, then? Isn't one supposed to lead to another, supposedly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted October 1, 2014 Share #29 Posted October 1, 2014 The new thing is inflammation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share #30 Posted October 1, 2014 The new thing is inflammation. Yeah, that is everything now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted October 1, 2014 Share #31 Posted October 1, 2014 Well, why do we care about cholesterol, then? Isn't one supposed to lead to another, supposedly? The cholesterol hypothesis is pretty much bunk, and has been shown that repeatedly.....except in cases of extremely high cholesterol such as is found in familial hypercholestrolemia...... There is plenty of mounting evidence that silent inflammation is one of the major causes in CVD. This silent inflammation also results in elevated cholesterol levels as the body thinks it needs to heal itself. The medical community is coming around on this issue, though it's somewhat like turning a large ship around...it doesn't happen in the blink of an eye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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