maddmaxx ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2251 Posted July 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I'd love to hear from someone like @Prophet Zacharia if 70 "critical care" beds is a normal amount for a county of 95,000 people. That seems pretty darn few, but my county is over 10x that size, so hard to compare. Seems still having 10% capacity (of normal) during the height of the outbreak isn't awful (yet), so maybe you guys won't hit or exceed the 70 beds. Texas hospitals are quickly learning that capacity is only good so long as the smaller hospitals in the state don't start clamoring to send their excess patients to the big city hospitals. You can't just plan for yourself in an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2252 Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: I'd love to hear from someone like @Prophet Zacharia if 70 "critical care" beds is a normal amount for a county of 95,000 people. That seems pretty darn few, but my county is over 10x that size, so hard to compare. Seems still having 10% capacity (of normal) during the height of the outbreak isn't awful (yet), so maybe you guys won't hit or exceed the 70 beds. That’s 70 ICU beds for 11 counties I think. Walton only has one hospital with 77 beds total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2253 Posted July 13, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 4:31 PM, Razors Edge said: About a month later, 2,600 more cases and 92 more deaths. Despite being significant, it seems like a slightly downward trend from April and May. Two weeks later and "only" 21 new deaths which seems to be an improvement over my last check-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2254 Posted July 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Razors Edge said: I'd love to hear from someone like @Prophet Zacharia if 70 "critical care" beds is a normal amount for a county of 95,000 people. That seems pretty darn few, but my county is over 10x that size, so hard to compare. Seems still having 10% capacity (of normal) during the height of the outbreak isn't awful (yet), so maybe you guys won't hit or exceed the 70 beds. I read today the national average is about 35 critical care beds per 100,000 people, so as a baseline it’s ok, I guess. Now, Pittsburgh has about 1,100 critical care beds which works out to 92 beds/100,000 in our immediate region, although in a crisis they would send people from all over central PA here, so that number is relative. I’d say having only 7 open ICU beds IS a bad thing, and I’d look to see how far away one would have to travel to find a vacant ICU bed when those last few close. I suspect things will be tight all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2255 Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 9:32 PM, Allen said: Not good. BREAKING: An 11-county region of Northeast Georgia including Walton is down to seven critical care beds out of a capacity of 70. Georgia saw 599 people hospitalized from COVID-19 in the past day. -- The number of confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Walton County was 538 on Saturday afternoon, July 11 (+11 from Friday). There had been 29 deaths (+1) and 70 hospitalizations (+2). The Walton Tribune posted the above on Facebook. I can’t find their source. There was no follow up article in the paper. North East Georgia is pretty rural. I’m 50-60 miles from Atlanta. The northern counties are easily a hundred miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2256 Posted July 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: I read today the national average is about 35 critical care beds per 100,000 people, so as a baseline it’s ok, I guess. Now, Pittsburgh has about 1,100 critical care beds which works out to 92 beds/100,000 in our immediate region, although in a crisis they would send people from all over central PA here, so that number is relative. I’d say having only 7 open ICU beds IS a bad thing, and I’d look to see how far away one would have to travel to find a vacant ICU bed when those last few close. I suspect things will be tight all over. Here's a handy map that show the total number and unoccupied hospital beds per capita broken down by county. Lighter the color the fewer beds per 1000 residence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2257 Posted July 13, 2020 Walton County’s 29 deaths reported to date include 15 males and 14 females. All but one of the victims was over 60 and six of them were over 90. One woman and three men were African American and the other 25 were caucasian. Walton County Cases – 569 – That’s 26 more cases reported in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 –593.9 Total deaths – 29 – that’s no more deaths reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 70 – that’s no more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Gwinnett County Cases – 11,691 – that’s 387 new cases reported in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 – 1,204 Total deaths – 185 – that’s two more death reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 1,351 – That is 36 more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours Georgia Confirmed cases – 120,569 – that is 3,026 more cases reported in the past 24 hours ICU admissions – 2,643 – that’s 22 more reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalizations – 13,476 – That’s 217 more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths –3,026 – That is 25 more death reported in the past 24 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Allen ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share #2258 Posted July 13, 2020 My sister’s friend has improved. My sister is still asymptomatic 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2259 Posted July 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, Allen said: My sister’s friend has improved. My sister is still asymptomatic Did your sister test positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2260 Posted July 13, 2020 I read an article that suggested that part of the reason for Arizona’s spike in cases is that so many people are inside in air conditioning. Makes sense, who would be outside in 120 degrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2261 Posted July 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Did your sister test positive? She never got tested. I admonished her for that but can’t force her to go. Wednesday will be two weeks from her exposure. She and her friend spent the day together. Five days later her friend got sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2262 Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Allen said: She never got tested. I admonished her for that but can’t force her to go. Wednesday will be two weeks from her exposure. She and her friend spent the day together. Five days later her friend got sick. So a good chance she is not asymptomatic but negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2263 Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kzoo said: So a good chance she is not asymptomatic but negative? That’s the hope. She dodged the bullet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2264 Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: I read an article that suggested that part of the reason for Arizona’s spike in cases is that so many people are inside in air conditioning. Makes sense, who would be outside in 120 degrees? This is what the doctors are beginning to fear. Indoor circulated air my be our undoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share #2265 Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: This is what the doctors are beginning to fear. Indoor circulated air my be our undoing. It's a good point. Closed systems seem to spell trouble. It's the same reason I won't fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 13, 2020 Share #2266 Posted July 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: This is what the doctors are beginning to fear. Indoor circulated air my be our undoing. At work they are somehow managing 0 recycle. That gives the system a workout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2267 Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 12:32 PM, Razors Edge said: Two weeks later and "only" 21 new deaths which seems to be an improvement over my last check-in. HOLY SCHNIZZLE!!!! VA has 14k cases over a SIX MONTH period. Florida just his 10k cases in ONE DAY!!!!! and 300,000+ cases in total! HOLY GRAB YOUR HATS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2268 Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: HOLY SCHNIZZLE!!!! VA has 14k cases over a SIX MONTH period. Florida just his 10k cases in ONE DAY!!!!! and 300,000+ cases in total! HOLY GRAB YOUR HATS!!!! And 35 deaths yesterday. There ain't no hiding those numbers now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2269 Posted July 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: And 35 deaths yesterday. There ain't no hiding those numbers now. And I saw this today: Last Sunday, Germany (population 80.2 million) had 159 new cases of covid-19; Florida (population 21.5 million) had 15,300. That's pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2270 Posted July 15, 2020 And this sort of thing doesn't look good: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2271 Posted July 15, 2020 This tweet didn’t age well. Of course, one was retweeted by the #PINO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Razors Edge ★ Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2273 Posted July 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Yeah, I'd rather have the HHS guidance (or better, direct from the WH) for why we should be opening schools! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2274 Posted July 15, 2020 Honestly, we do need some babysitters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2275 Posted July 15, 2020 55 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Yeah, I'd rather have the HHS guidance (or better, direct from the WH) for why we should be opening schools! Since the WH is getting direct from the source data that bypasses the CDC, it seems best to get the freshest intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 15, 2020 Share #2276 Posted July 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Razors Edge said: And I saw this today: Last Sunday, Germany (population 80.2 million) had 159 new cases of covid-19; Florida (population 21.5 million) had 15,300. That's pretty amazing. I suspect that Germans do not fuck around like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2277 Posted July 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Since the WH is getting direct from the source data that bypasses the CDC, it seems best to get the freshest intel. Trust that as far as I can throw it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2278 Posted July 16, 2020 @Allen, WTF is your governor doing? Governor Brian Kemp is overruling local governments that have issued mandatory mask laws in a new executive over issued Wednesday. “State, county, or municipal law, order, ordinance, rule, or regulation that requires persons to wear face coverings, masks, face shields, or any other Personal Protective Equipment while in places of public accommodation or on public property are suspended to the extent that they are more restrictive than this Executive Order.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2279 Posted July 16, 2020 On Monday, Arizona, South Carolina and Texas all hit record high average daily deaths, based on a seven-day average using data from Johns Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Razors Edge ★ Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2281 Posted July 16, 2020 42 minutes ago, Mr. Grumpy said: But should we count these folks since they were going to get sick and/or die at some point anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2282 Posted July 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: @Allen, WTF is your governor doing? Governor Brian Kemp is overruling local governments that have issued mandatory mask laws in a new executive over issued Wednesday. “State, county, or municipal law, order, ordinance, rule, or regulation that requires persons to wear face coverings, masks, face shields, or any other Personal Protective Equipment while in places of public accommodation or on public property are suspended to the extent that they are more restrictive than this Executive Order.” Pandering to his anti-intellectual base. Wearing masks is huge deal down here. It’s more accepted in the cities, but in rural areas it is seen as a purely political statement. I’ve been called out several times for wearing one. I wouldn’t be surprised if he overruled school districts on their use either. He’s terrified of the next election. His approval ratings are dismal, somewhere in the high 30s last I looked. He admitted to my sister that he wished he waited four years before he ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2283 Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Allen said: Pandering to his anti-intellectual base. Wearing masks is huge deal down here. It’s more accepted in the cities, but in rural areas it is seen as a purely political statement. I’ve been called out several times for wearing one. I wouldn’t be surprised if he overruled school districts on their use either. He’s terrified of the next election. His approval ratings are dismal, somewhere in the high 30s last I looked. He admitted to my sister that he wished he waited four years before he ran. For your sake, I hope he gets bounced next time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2284 Posted July 16, 2020 23 hours ago, Razors Edge said: And this sort of thing doesn't look good: A recent survey of Canadians were done within the last 3-4 wks.: 80% Canadians want to keep the Canada-U.S. border closed to travellers with non-essential reasons. Of course, one can still fly into U.S. and then returning back, 14 day quarantine. One is tracked for the police to follow up, if needed. Interview of Canadian long-haul truckers who have made several trips into the U.S. several times. 1 of them turned down some work to go into the U.S. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/truck-drivers-say-keep-border-closed-to-non-essential-travel-1.5648051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2285 Posted July 16, 2020 3 US states are now the 5th worst country in the world for new virus cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2286 Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: 3 US states are now the 5th worst country in the world for new virus cases. #Winning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2287 Posted July 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: 3 US states are now the 5th worst country in the world for new virus cases. Are we at the point where we just throw up our hands and let it roll??? Honestly, folks seem fine with 130,000 deaths and millions of infections. What makes us think a million deaths and a hundred million infections would be much different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share #2288 Posted July 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Are we at the point where we just throw up our hands and let it roll??? Honestly, folks seem fine with 130,000 deaths and millions of infections. What makes us think a million deaths and a hundred million infections would be much different? I've been saying this for awhile. It's clearly the current administration's plan. It has been for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2289 Posted July 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Are we at the point where we just throw up our hands and let it roll??? Honestly, folks seem fine with 130,000 deaths and millions of infections. What makes us think a million deaths and a hundred million infections would be much different? A million plus deaths will destroy the economy anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2290 Posted July 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: What makes us think a million deaths and a hundred million infections would be much different? I will be curious to see if we start seeing 5%, 7% or even 12+% death rates in places like Florida, Georgia and Texas as ICU’s become full, or if the combination of younger victims, a possible less virulent virus and better treatments keeps the death rates lower, despite the volume. edit: I see Florida is now setting new state records for their deaths each day this week, today with 156 dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 16, 2020 Share #2291 Posted July 16, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2292 Posted July 17, 2020 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6990255-Governors-Report-14-July-20.html?fbclid=IwAR2zvGrHPZ9u41ZkSjO4ATIPy-SxtrzEoXZZtE2dg6-7XxBVvZSIBXuposw Unpublished White House covid report obtained by The Washington Post tl;dr wear your damned mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2293 Posted July 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Allen said: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6990255-Governors-Report-14-July-20.html?fbclid=IwAR2zvGrHPZ9u41ZkSjO4ATIPy-SxtrzEoXZZtE2dg6-7XxBVvZSIBXuposw Unpublished White House covid report obtained by The Washington Post tl;dr wear your damned mask. If you want to get more depressed with just how stupid the anti-science crowd is in UT, read this: https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/07/15/packed-meeting-utah/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2294 Posted July 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, Allen said: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6990255-Governors-Report-14-July-20.html?fbclid=IwAR2zvGrHPZ9u41ZkSjO4ATIPy-SxtrzEoXZZtE2dg6-7XxBVvZSIBXuposw Unpublished White House covid report obtained by The Washington Post tl;dr wear your damned mask. WTF! They don;t even know how to alpahabetize! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2295 Posted July 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Randomguy said: If you want to get more depressed with just how stupid the anti-science crowd is in UT, read this: https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/07/15/packed-meeting-utah/ That very voter base is why Brian Kemp over ruled the municipalities on mask mandates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2296 Posted July 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Allen said: That very voter base is why Brian Kemp over ruled the municipalities on mask mandates. Even the Texas governor has come to his senses after he was hit on the head with a 4 x 4. Your governor has to be in contention for biggest idiot ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2297 Posted July 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: Even the Texas governor has come to his senses after he was hit on the head with a 4 x 4. Your governor has to be in contention for biggest idiot ever. His saying he wasn’t aware of asymptotic carriers until three months into this showed his concern of attention. Right now his feud with Atlanta’s mayor is giving him rural traction. That’s his current focus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2298 Posted July 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Allen said: His saying he wasn’t aware of asymptotic carriers until three months into this showed his concern of attention. Right now his feud with Atlanta’s mayor is giving him rural traction. That’s his current focus. It's always interesting to see fools talk out both sides of their mouth. On one hand, it is "important" for local folks to make local decisions, until all of a sudden it is urgent that they not be allowed to make local decisions. I'm usually fine with that idea where someone higher up steps in to make things BETTER, but it is vile to make things WORSE on purpose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Allen ★ Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2300 Posted July 17, 2020 Walton County Cases – 602 – That’s 28 more cases reported in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 –628.3 Total deaths – 31 – that’s a reduction of one death reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 73 – that’s two more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Gwinnett County Cases – 12.489 – that’s 272 new cases reported in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 – 1,286 Total deaths – 191 – that’s two more death reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 1,467 – That is 25 more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours Georgia Confirmed cases – 131,275 – that is 3,441 more cases reported in the past 24 hours ICU admissions – 2,736 – that’s 34 more reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalizations – 14,346 – That’s 244 more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths –3,104 – That is 13 more death reported in the past 24 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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