Randomguy Posted September 15, 2019 Share #1 Posted September 15, 2019 Does it get better? I mean, it is well done and all, but so far it is a bunch of rich asians acting snooty and a couple of really nice ones. That isn't enough of a plot. I paused for a while and just restarted it. Should I keep going or go on to something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted September 15, 2019 Share #2 Posted September 15, 2019 I liked it, but I don't recall it changing a lot mid-movie. So if you don't like it now, you probably won't like the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted September 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kirby said: I liked it, but I don't recall it changing a lot mid-movie. So if you don't like it now, you probably won't like the rest. All the entertainment available is on a hard drive, so I will finish it. So far the only thing that sets this movie apart from any other Cinderella-type stuff is Asian characters. If you changed the Asians for British and changed a few lines it would have been considered cookie-cutterish, so I am trying to figure out why it got such great reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #4 Posted September 15, 2019 Yeah, um... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #5 Posted September 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, Randomguy said: All the entertainment available is on a hard drive, so I will finish it. So far the only thing that sets this movie apart from any other Cinderella-type stuff is Asian characters. If you changed the Asians for British and changed a few lines it would have been considered cookie-cutterish, so I am trying to figure out why it got such great reviews. Great question! It was just your standard formulaic rom-com. Ho hum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted September 15, 2019 Share #6 Posted September 15, 2019 I wanted to ask for my money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted September 15, 2019 Share #7 Posted September 15, 2019 It was only a big deal because it was beautiful looking, Asian-descent actors, actresses speaking English and not fitting any old, old stereotype of whimpy Asian nerd guy or submissive Asian woman playing 2nd fiddle. And gets beyond the stereotype for many non-Asian folks who don't see hot Asian guys and some gals, speaking English on big screen. I found the plot abit thin...compared to "Hidden Figures" on the black American female engineers and mathmaticians who worked for NASA. I saw the latter film.....5 times. It had multiple story lines intertwined in that movie. What is better in terms of acting range is the CBC light comedy series"Kim's Convenience." No point giving link here, since it won't work for Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #8 Posted September 15, 2019 The maxx's liked it for obvious reasons. I met some real people who could have played in that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted September 15, 2019 Share #9 Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: The maxx's liked it for obvious reasons. I met some real people who could have played in that movie. I'm actually fascinated to hear more max...because it's a tiny fragment of society that lives that life. Was life that lavish? Give an example... Who would have been the gorgeous model like Asian Westernized woman? The guy with abs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #10 Posted September 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, shootingstar said: I'm actually fascinated to hear more max...because it's a tiny fragment of society that lives that life. Was life that lavish? Give an example... Who would have been the gorgeous model like Asian Westernized woman? The guy with abs? My son's father in law was a self made multi millionaire who lived on the top 4 floors of a skyscraper his company built. His infinity pool was on the roof. The brides sister in law a all the bridesmaids were very good looking. People came from all over the globe for the wedding, England, Scotland, Mainland China, New York. The wedding party took over an entire restaurant for the day. Post wedding on our way home the family flew to Singapore and we stayed at, you guessed it, the Marina Bay Sands Hotel Casino where the movie was filmed. Father in law was comped several rooms as a regular patron and the hotel staff picked us up at the airport and dropped us off when we left. No helicopters however but I did get to attend the Kuala Lumpur City Grand Prix and watch Lamborghini's race. Unfortunately oldest son is a pauper again as the marriage only lasted 2 years. Win some lose some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted September 15, 2019 Share #11 Posted September 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: My son's father in law was a self made multi millionaire who lived on the top 4 floors of a skyscraper his company built. His infinity pool was on the roof. The brides sister in law a all the bridesmaids were very good looking. People came from all over the globe for the wedding, England, Scotland, Mainland China, New York. The wedding party took over an entire restaurant for the day. Post wedding on our way home the family flew to Singapore and we stayed at, you guessed it, the Marina Bay Sands Hotel Casino where the movie was filmed. Father in law was comped several rooms as a regular patron and the hotel staff picked us up at the airport and dropped us off when we left. No helicopters however but I did get to attend the Kuala Lumpur City Grand Prix and watch Lamborghini's race. Unfortunately oldest son is a pauper again as the marriage only lasted 2 years. Win some lose some. As father of groom, what an experience. Wow. I'm glad you had it. In some ways for you....your son's brief marriage opened the door a little for you to experience life elsewhere. I personally don't know any wealthy mainland immigrant Chinese in Vancouver nor Toronto. I just hear stories. The most lavish wedding I went was a cousin in Toronto where they had 800 guests. It was abit surreal. yea, they are still married with 4 children, now all adult. Cousin was a nice woman, not a snob. A wedding with 200 guests among Chinese-Canadians in certain cities, is not unusual. I am very accustomed going to wedding receptions where children are invited...that's how I started enjoy lobster at 5 yrs. old, crab, etc. That's how my extended family treats wedding receptions.....children are invited they are part of life/family...which is why negotiating a good banquet cost deal with restaurant is useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: Great question! It was just your standard formulaic rom-com. Ho hum! But there was zero comedy. It was free, but I also want my money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted September 15, 2019 Share #13 Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Randomguy said: But there was zero comedy. It was free, but I also want my money back. There was a bit of gentle satire..parodying of the ultra rich...especially that Jack and Jill party on the party ship, etc. prior to wedding. Akwafina as playing the kooky friend of the heroine and her crazy/weird parents. Maybe ask some of your ABC (American-born Chinese) contacts what they thought of the movie. ABCs might have a different opinion from recent immigrants. See the term "comedy"....more in line with Shakespearean definition of comedy.....where at the end the male and female main characters live happily ever after/fall in love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #14 Posted September 15, 2019 9 hours ago, shootingstar said: As father of groom, what an experience. Wow. I'm glad you had it. In some ways for you....your son's brief marriage opened the door a little for you to experience life elsewhere. I personally don't know any wealthy mainland immigrant Chinese in Vancouver nor Toronto. I just hear stories. The most lavish wedding I went was a cousin in Toronto where they had 800 guests. It was abit surreal. yea, they are still married with 4 children, now all adult. Cousin was a nice woman, not a snob. A wedding with 200 guests among Chinese-Canadians in certain cities, is not unusual. I am very accustomed going to wedding receptions where children are invited...that's how I started enjoy lobster at 5 yrs. old, crab, etc. That's how my extended family treats wedding receptions.....children are invited they are part of life/family...which is why negotiating a good banquet cost deal with restaurant is useful. It was a bit surreal for me as well. We were way out of our class some of the time. Fortunately father in law, having risen from an immigrant laborer and cook in Malaysia to the owner of a major construction company and as well as a heavy equipment distributorship was a pretty down to earth guy at times. The brides sister in law and sister took womaxx an myself to the races and escorted us around down town Kuala Lumpur. That took care of the language barrier and they helped us explore some very local places to shop and eat. The wedding itself was a blur as they also took the occasion to add our family to their family tree with a ceremony involving all of the extended family that was present. I wonder if we are still part of the family tree now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted September 15, 2019 Share #15 Posted September 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Randomguy said: But there was zero comedy. It was free, but I also want my money back. The scene between mom and future DIL playing mahjong made it worthwhile to me. She’s a professor of game theory and tapped into her “power” to rise from the low place. As storytelling goes, it’s classic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted September 15, 2019 Share #16 Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, maddmaxx said: It was a bit surreal for me as well. We were way out of our class some of the time. Fortunately father in law, having risen from an immigrant laborer and cook in Malaysia to the owner of a major construction company and as well as a heavy equipment distributorship was a pretty down to earth guy at times. The brides sister in law and sister took womaxx an myself to the races and escorted us around down town Kuala Lumpur. That took care of the language barrier and they helped us explore some very local places to shop and eat. The wedding itself was a blur as they also took the occasion to add our family to their family tree with a ceremony involving all of the extended family that was present. I wonder if we are still part of the family tree now. What does crazy rich Asian divorce look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #17 Posted September 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, roadsue said: What does crazy rich Asian divorce look like? Bodyguards arrive and throw you out reminding you that returning to Malaysia may be detrimental to your health. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted September 15, 2019 Share #18 Posted September 15, 2019 I laughed, but maybe I shouldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #19 Posted September 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, roadsue said: I laughed, but maybe I shouldn’t. It was a complicated story, funny but not funny. Money is power. I don't think father in law was really in favor of wife's action.........but family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted September 15, 2019 Share #20 Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, maddmaxx said: It was a complicated story, funny but not funny. Money is power. Which is why the denouement of that film is so cool. The protagonist bests money with her game theory power. Love wins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #21 Posted September 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, roadsue said: Which is why the denouement of that film is so cool. The protagonist bests money with her game theory power. Love wins! The movies love happy endings. Now he's back to teaching.....in Mainland China this time. Someday when his resume is as good as it can get he may return to Japan. He was happiest there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #22 Posted September 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, roadsue said: denouement What a word! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #23 Posted September 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Randomguy said: So far the only thing that sets this movie apart from any other Cinderella-type stuff is Asian characters. If you changed the Asians for British and changed a few lines it would have been considered cookie-cutterish Generally, movie (and TV) viewers want "cookie-cutter". Give people what they want! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #24 Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Generally, movie (and TV) viewers want "cookie-cutter". Give people what they want! Well duh. Are you going to spend good money in the theater watching things you don't like? There's a reason that Marvel movies break box office records so often. They are not produced for the critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted September 15, 2019 Share #25 Posted September 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Generally, movie (and TV) viewers want "cookie-cutter". Give people what they want! @shootingstar already defined comedy in classic terms. The protagonist has to fall, a mentor-like character enters the story to remind them of their inner strength, there is a battle of sorts, which the protagonist wins, and good is restored. We love a comedy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon KITguy Posted September 15, 2019 Share #26 Posted September 15, 2019 I have many movies with much comedy. If you like I send you many from my import export facility for storage here in Kazakhstan. I'm nice guy so I give them to you gravitas. You pay freight and the party is on me. Send PM for how I get your freight money and I am your movie friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 15, 2019 Share #27 Posted September 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jon KITguy said: I have many movies with much comedy. If you like I send you many from my import export facility for storage here in Kazakhstan. I'm nice guy so I give them to you gravitas. You pay freight and the party is on me. Send PM for how I get your freight money and I am your movie friend. Hmm, I can only narrow this down to cheese, jsharrt, or maxx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share #28 Posted September 16, 2019 10 hours ago, roadsue said: The scene between mom and future DIL playing mahjong made it worthwhile to me. She’s a professor of game theory and tapped into her “power” to rise from the low place. As storytelling goes, it’s classic. She had it won, but folded for NO REAL REASON! Just dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted September 16, 2019 Share #29 Posted September 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Randomguy said: She had it won, but folded for NO REAL REASON! Just dumb The young woman told mom that mom could have her son and the legacy of knowing it would be she herself who destroyed his autonomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted September 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, roadsue said: The young woman told mom that mom could have her son and the legacy of knowing it would be she herself who destroyed his autonomy. How does the game theorist 'win' by folding? Sure, Hollywood stupidity to the rescue. Whats her butt just should have said 'yes' when asked the first time when she had the royal flush. She could back up saying 'yes' logically from multiple angles, and saying 'no' was logical from none. Super-contrived. I want a good movie, this was a hallmark special on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share #31 Posted September 16, 2019 Now I am getting ads from Asian dating sites. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted September 16, 2019 Share #32 Posted September 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Randomguy said: How does the game theorist 'win' by folding? Sure, Hollywood stupidity to the rescue. Whats her butt just should have said 'yes' when asked the first time when she had the royal flush. She could back up saying 'yes' logically from multiple angles, and saying 'no' was logical from none. Super-contrived. I want a good movie, this was a hallmark special on steroids. It was light and contrived and formulaic. And I enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted September 16, 2019 Share #33 Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Now I am getting ads from Asian dating sites. Make up ads for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share #34 Posted September 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, roadsue said: It was light and contrived and formulaic. And I enjoyed it. I suppose it is as you say. I am mostly annoyed by all the folks saying it was somehow "best picture" material, or even above average. I can enjoy average films if my expectations are sufficiently low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted September 16, 2019 Share #35 Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 9:09 AM, roadsue said: The scene between mom and future DIL playing mahjong made it worthwhile to me. She’s a professor of game theory and tapped into her “power” to rise from the low place. As storytelling goes, it’s classic. OK stupid me. I saw the movie twice, and NEVER made that "game theory" connection. Of course, I know nothing of Mahjong so I still don't know if she won or lost, and just because she won, why did that change the mom's mind? It was a well written take on the constant boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl. Throw in some light comedy and everybody offers up major self sacrifice, and I didn't mind watching a second time when my wife wanted to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted September 16, 2019 Share #36 Posted September 16, 2019 I do not recall any kung fu in the entire movie. Then again, I did not watch much of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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