12string Posted February 14 Share #1 Posted February 14 Oh NOOOOOoo! grounded because their "No Smoking" warning lights' on/off are controlled by software rather than flight crew, as required by a law in 1990. In 2020, the FAA created an exemption for all listed newly built aircraft. Airbus didn't think to ask them to add the latest version of the A320. So now they are grounded because the no smoking light goes on automatically 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted February 14 Share #2 Posted February 14 Somewhere a red light just lit up on the panel. I don't know when they are coming, but they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted February 14 Share #3 Posted February 14 Better get that fixed right away. That is a real hazard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted February 14 Share #4 Posted February 14 I think I would like to bring smoking back to the airlines, that is a fun habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted February 14 Share #5 Posted February 14 44 minutes ago, Randomguy said: I think I would like to bring smoking back to the airlines, that is a fun habit. would the smoking section be in the front half or the back half of da plane? I think it should be in the back half. The smokers can open the window & the smoke will magically go out the winder 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Far ★ Posted February 14 Share #6 Posted February 14 9 minutes ago, Scrapr said: would the smoking section be in the front half or the back half of da plane? I think it should be in the back half. The smokers can open the window & the smoke will magically go out the winder In the before times, IIRC, the smoking section was in the back of the aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted February 14 Share #7 Posted February 14 Pretty sure I was on an A321 for my Georgia trip. I didn't realize how close to Peril I was. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted February 14 Share #8 Posted February 14 Many aircraft just keep the light on all the time. Of course they may allow smoking in other parts of the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted February 14 Share #9 Posted February 14 10 minutes ago, JerrySTL said: Many aircraft just keep the light on all the time. That seems to be the problem. To fly the plane, they need a waiver (and they didn't do that) to allow the light to always be on. https://viewfromthewing.com/united-airlines-just-grounded-a-fleet-of-planes-because-its-no-smoking-signs-dont-turn-off/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted February 14 Share #10 Posted February 14 First world problem. In the third world they just rightfully ignore shit like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted February 14 Author Share #11 Posted February 14 1 hour ago, TrentonMakes said: Pretty sure I was on an A321 for my Georgia trip. I didn't realize how close to Peril I was. It depends. The regular A321 was on the exemption list, they are allowed to automatically turn on the light The A321 neo didn't get put on the list yet, it's a tube of death 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted February 14 Share #12 Posted February 14 Rules are rules. If only the FAA was as concerned about the Max series Boeings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted February 14 Share #13 Posted February 14 18 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Rules are rules. If only the FAA was as concerned about the Max series Boeings. Deep inside I agree that the airline equipment rules must be very strict. It seems however that a problem like this should have a fast track to a solution. I guess however that it's unsafe to bless the industry with common sense instead of government oversight. The industry has proven that it's incapable of policing itself. I have watched jet engines moved from one test dell to another that had perhaps a 0.01% better performance curve due to tolerances just so the engine could be fast tracked out the door. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted February 15 Share #14 Posted February 15 4 hours ago, Randomguy said: I think I would like to bring smoking back to the airlines, that is a fun habit. good times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted February 15 Share #15 Posted February 15 11 hours ago, maddmaxx said: Deep inside I agree that the airline equipment rules must be very strict. It seems however that a problem like this should have a fast track to a solution. I guess however that it's unsafe to bless the industry with common sense instead of government oversight. The industry has proven that it's incapable of policing itself. I have watched jet engines moved from one test dell to another that had perhaps a 0.01% better performance curve due to tolerances just so the engine could be fast tracked out the door. I am pretty sure this will be fast-tracked. When we import aircraft, the Transport Canada blessing allows no variance from the type certificate. Even a spelling error on a placard will ground the aircraft. For the record, we don't even have a "No Smoking" sign onboard. It was not included in the type certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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