Do you sharpen your pencil sharpener?

[donkpow]

I do and you should too.

[Airehead]

I don't but our facilities guy does.  It is one of his twice a year tasks-- he does them all.  He enjoys saving us money.

[Razors Edge]

6 minutes ago, donkpow said:

Do you sharpen your pencil sharpener?

I do and you should too.

I hate to call you a moran, Don, but there is a reason we have landfills! If your pencil sharpener ain't sharp any more, then toss it in the can and get a new one!

[donkpow]

Many people don't know this about me but I sharpen my drafting pencils with a depression era solution. I stack and staple strips of fine sandpaper to a wood shim and simply discard the strip when it becomes too dirty to tolerate. It's the only way, really.

[bikeman564™]

1 hour ago, donkpow said:

Many people don't know this about me but I sharpen my drafting pencils with a depression era solution. I stack and staple strips of fine sandpaper to a wood shim and simply discard the strip when it becomes too dirty to tolerate. It's the only way, really.

I've used these

 

[maddmaxx]

1 hour ago, donkpow said:

Many people don't know this about me but I sharpen my drafting pencils with a depression era solution. I stack and staple strips of fine sandpaper to a wood shim and simply discard the strip when it becomes too dirty to tolerate. It's the only way, really.

I don't have a pencil sharpener, ^^^ so this trick that I learned in drafting class is still in use in the lab.

[Allen]

I use my pocket knife. Yes, I keep it quite sharp. 
I use a diamond hone for pocket and kitchen knives and reserve my natural stones for my razors. 

[jsharr]

1 hour ago, Razors Edge said:

I hate to call you a moran, Don, but there is a reason we have landfills! If your pencil sharpener ain't sharp any more, then toss it in the can and get a new one!

My name is Jeff Bezos and I approve of this message.

[Razors Edge]

1 minute ago, jsharr said:

My name is Jeff Bezos and I approve of this message.

I use mechanical pencils, so most of this conversation is just nonsense anyway   Also, a pencil sharpener is a $1 doodad that can be tossed in a desk drawer.  But a half dozen and more on.

[jsharr]

Here is Dottie's sharpener.  He likes to use this at coffee shops as he eyes the barristas and female patrons.

[Razors Edge]

9 minutes ago, jsharr said:

Here is Dottie's sharpener.  He likes to use this at coffee shops as he eyes the barristas and female patrons.

It explains why all his pencils are down to the nub! God help the hot chicks who cross his path at the coffee shop!

[Kzoo]

45 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said:

I've used these

 

Me too in my design days.  I never cut and stacked sand paper to do it.  I paid 59 cents to buy one.  I lasted years.......... and years.  It was only used to point the lead in my compasses.  For the many drafting pencils I used this and all good draftsmen did before CAD.

[Kzoo]

12 minutes ago, jsharr said:

Here is Dottie's sharpener.  He likes to use this at coffee shops as he eyes the barristas and female patrons.

That's disgusting. You are this close to being put on my Ignore List.

 

[donkpow]

45 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said:

I've used these

 

Exactly.

I also have one of these:

In drafting or technical drawing, the width of a line has meaning. With the older technology, one could use a single pencil and the sharpening board to create all of the line widths needed. The sharpener above puts a point on the lead in the lead holder. Not quite as useful. However, the device does catch the lead dust. Now that horses are less abundant to donate to dust brushes, it's probably a good idea.

[Forum Administrator]

1 hour ago, Airehead said:

I don't but our facilities guy does.  It is one of his twice a year tasks-- he does them all.  He enjoys saving us money.

This is step #1 whenever someone says they need a new pencil sharpener,

[Kzoo]

1 minute ago, donkpow said:

and the sharpening board to create all of the line widths needed.

Line width was created by the hardness of the lead.  One lead holder for the body.  One for hidden lines. One for dimension lines. One for lettering.

[donkpow]

2 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

Line width was created by the hardness of the lead.  One lead holder for the body.  One for hidden lines. One for dimension lines. One for lettering.

Yeah, when you were an overpaid gov't draftsman.

[bikeman564™]

Drafting was an art, luckily I was young enough to where this was only a school thing   Lettering is what I disliked the most. Needed to be consistent and neat. I used one of these for guide lines.

[Kzoo]

Just now, bikeman564™ said:

Drafting was an art, luckily I was young enough to where this was only a school thing   Lettering is what I disliked the most. Needed to be consistent and neat. I used one of these for guide lines.

Cheating.

This is the tool for lettering.  

[bikeman564™]

Hehe, I have it here at work. I've used it here.

[Kzoo]

5 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said:

Hehe, I have it here at work. I've used it here.

Truth.  I've used one many times.  I probably still have it in my box of drafting tools somewhere.

 

[bikeman564™]

1 minute ago, Kzoo said:

Truth.  I've used one many times.  I probably still have it in my box of drafting tools somewhere.

 

I've mainly used it to draw construction lines to letter within. I also used it for letting inside the template, but if not careful, tops and bottoms of letters are flat

[Kzoo]

Just now, bikeman564™ said:

I've mainly used it to draw construction lines to letter within. I also used it for letting inside the template, but if not careful, tops and bottoms of letters are flat

My last couple years on the board I used that and developed a very nice lettering style with flat bottoms.

That was a long time ago.  My drawing career came to an end in 1977.

 

[bikeman564™]

Just now, Kzoo said:

My last couple years on the board I used that and developed a very nice lettering style with flat bottoms.

That was a long time ago.  My drawing career came to an end in 1977.

 

I can appreciate good lettering style. We have a lot of drawings here dated from the 40s-80s from companies like Detroit Diesel, Chrysler, GM, etc. Back when they were blue prints. Some Chrysler drawings were sepia.

[Razors Edge]

4 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said:

I can appreciate good lettering style. We have a lot of drawings here dated from the 40s-80s from companies like Detroit Diesel, Chrysler, GM, etc. Back when they were blue prints. Some Chrysler drawings were sepia.

These are better with a picture!  Can you snap a pic of a good example?

[bikeman564™]

6 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

These are better with a picture!  Can you snap a pic of a good example?

Not easily. They're stored away somewhere in a difficult place to go because we don't access them

[jsharr]

1 hour ago, donkpow said:

Yeah, when you were an overpaid gov't draftsman.

Is that @Dottles with the binoculars?  Must have just gotten back from the coffee shop.

[Dottleshead]

4 minutes ago, jsharr said:

Is that @Dottles with the binoculars?  Must have just gotten back from the coffee shop.

I'm here today in ritzy Bellevue -- @Razors Edge's second home.

https://anchorheadcoffee.com/

[Wilbur]

I waterstone and strop anything that cuts.  Except paper.  

[jsharr]

Just now, Wilbur said:

I waterstone and strop anything that cuts.  Except paper.  

I bet the really makes your tongue hurt.

[Razors Edge]

1 hour ago, Dottles said:

I'm here today in ritzy Bellevue -- @Razors Edge's second home.

https://anchorheadcoffee.com/

I was Kirkland riffraff. Only went to Bellevue when the bossman called me into the HQ.  Otherwise, I lived and worked with the common folks.

[maddmaxx]

1 hour ago, bikeman564™ said:

Drafting was an art, luckily I was young enough to where this was only a school thing   Lettering is what I disliked the most. Needed to be consistent and neat. I used one of these for guide lines.

They gave me one of those, but the cheap assed pencils that came with it wouldn't write on it.  A sharpie worked but smudged badly.

[Wilbur]

5 minutes ago, jsharr said:

I bet the really makes your tongue hurt.

You know me too well, Texican. 

[jsharr]

2 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

You know me too well, Texican. 

You have filleted me more than once, Canuckistani.

[Wilbur]

7 minutes ago, jsharr said:

You have filleted me more than once, Canuckistani.

That's all?  

[jsharr]

21 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

That's all?  

what part of "more" does not translate from Texican to Canuckistani?

[Kzoo]

16 minutes ago, jsharr said:

what part of "more" does not translate from Texican to Canuckistani?

The beginning part and the ending part.

Sometimes it helps if you say type it slowly.

 

[jsharr]

4 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

The beginning part and the ending part.

Sometimes it helps if you say type it slowly.

 

M

 

O

 

R

 

E

[Forum Administrator]

4 hours ago, donkpow said:

In drafting or technical drawing, the width of a line has meaning. 

I am genuinely curious...  do you have an example?  I'm looking up examples and I don't see any difference in the thickness of the lines. I see double lines, but it appears that all lines are the same width.  What does that width mean?

[Kzoo]

3 minutes ago, Forum Administrator said:

I am genuinely curious...  do you have an example?  I'm looking up examples and I don't see any difference in the thickness of the lines. I see double lines, but it appears that all lines are the same width.  What does that width mean?

The body of the drawing uses a thicker line than the dimension lines and others such as hidden lines.  As a draftsman, one of the things that becomes ingrained is how thick to make what lines.  With old fashion Ink drawings this is done by adjusting the thickness of the quill.  Modern ink drawings it's done with different tipped pens.  No one does hand ink drawings anymore.  I did a few in school only because I had to.  With pencil drawings on vellum it was done with different hardness of lead.  Very hard for laying down initial outlines, soft for body lines, medium hard for dimension lines and slightly softer for lettering and arrowheads.  The hardness used was based on the person and the pressure they liked to use.  Today a computer does it... 

 

[Dottleshead]

1 hour ago, Razors Edge said:

I was Kirkland riffraff. Only went to Bellevue when the bossman called me into the HQ.  Otherwise, I lived and worked with the common folks.

Kirkland is considered higher scale than Bellevue. I knew it! You were a snob.

[Further]

7 hours ago, donkpow said:

Many people don't know this about me but I sharpen my drafting pencils with a depression era solution. I stack and staple strips of fine sandpaper to a wood shim and simply discard the strip when it becomes too dirty to tolerate. It's the only way, really.

I was taught that in a drafting class eons ago.

I think now they just change the font...