Dottleshead ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #101 Posted March 2, 2020 This thing is like marking the states bingo. First one to track a solid line of adjacent states from the two coast wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #102 Posted March 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Dottles said: 13 documented cases now in western Washington. And gobs they're watching. 2 hours ago, Dottles said: The latest reporting is 80% of the infected cases are mild. But they are now suggesting to avoid crowds and work from home if you can. Wash your hands vigorously and keep a 6 ft distance. Yeah. 6 feet. Don't ask me why. I like 300+ feet better. Add Rhode Island, New York and Florida into the mix. https://www.foxnews.com/health/rhode-island-coronavirus-people-monitored https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/01/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html https://www.foxnews.com/health/new-york-1st-coronavirus-case-cuomo https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/coronavirus/two-presumptive-cases-of-coronavirus-reported-in-tampa-bay Can you say 'OUTBREAK'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Share #103 Posted March 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Dottles said: The latest reporting is 80% of the infected cases are mild. But they are now suggesting to avoid crowds and work from home if you can. Wash your hands vigorously and keep a 6 ft distance. Yeah. 6 feet. Don't ask me why. I like 300+ feet better. I prefer that you stay on that coast. However, jokes aside, it's out of the box now and it really doesn't matter. Mild cases or not, the 1 in 50 number leads to thoughts about the Spanish Flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 2, 2020 Share #104 Posted March 2, 2020 Here's an interesting recommendation, call ahead before going to the ER for flu like symptoms. This would ensure you will be isolated from other patients and the medical people can prep for and defend against potential infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Share #105 Posted March 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, donkpow said: Here's an interesting recommendation, call ahead before going to the ER for flu like symptoms. This would ensure you will be isolated from other patients and the medical people can prep for and defend against potential infection. I sure that one in several hundred will bother doing that. It is one of those good ideas that is thrown by the wayside by john q public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #106 Posted March 2, 2020 4 hours ago, maddmaxx said: I prefer that you stay on that coast. However, jokes aside, it's out of the box now and it really doesn't matter. Mild cases or not, the 1 in 50 number leads to thoughts about the Spanish Flu. I need to go out and see my cardiologist today. Otherwise I am coming home and working from home. Maybe all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Share #107 Posted March 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dottles said: I need to go out and see my cardiologist today. Otherwise I am coming home and working from home. Maybe all week. All year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #108 Posted March 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: All year? If only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted March 2, 2020 Share #109 Posted March 2, 2020 4 hours ago, donkpow said: Here's an interesting recommendation, call ahead before going to the ER for flu like symptoms. This would ensure you will be isolated from other patients and the medical people can prep for and defend against potential infection. I went to my doctor today for the second shingles vaccine and they had signs all over the medical building saying that if you had flu symptoms and had been to one of the "hot spots" to go to the emergency room rather than your GP and to call ahead to the ER. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #110 Posted March 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Kirby said: I went to my doctor today for the second shingles vaccine and they had signs all over the medical building saying that if you had flu symptoms and had been to one of the "hot spots" to go to the emergency room rather than your GP and to call ahead to the ER. My cardiologist office asked if I recently have been to China during checkin. I said no, but worse, as I live and work in Snohomish and King counties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted March 2, 2020 Share #111 Posted March 2, 2020 An interesting and unique problem we have here in America, where the spread of the virus is just getting started: 2 in 5 workers in retail, hospitality, food service - jobs that have the most contact with the most people - have neither health insurance nor paid sick time. So, due to our insistence that "social" medicine or government mandated paid leave would somehow spell the end of society, the people most able to spread the virus are also the people most encouraged to not seek treatment and be in contact with hundreds of people each day. Still going to Burger King for lunch? Think you might hear a cough or two over the grill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #112 Posted March 2, 2020 Well, now, make it 6 deaths. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/king-county-now-has-14-coronavirus-cases-including-5-deaths/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Share #113 Posted March 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Dottles said: My cardiologist office asked if I recently have been to China during checkin. I said no, but worse, as I live and work in Snohomish and King counties. Eye doctor's office asked me the same thing. I don't tell them that my son has been here for about 40 days now. It's either unimportant or we have been tracking the wrong symptoms and time lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #114 Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, maddmaxx said: Eye doctor's office asked me the same thing. I don't tell them that my son has been here for about 40 days now. It's either unimportant or we have been tracking the wrong symptoms and time lines. Stay safe, Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #115 Posted March 2, 2020 "Scientists are still researching how long the novel coronavirus can survive on surfaces, but an analysis of 22 earlier studies of similar coronaviruses found that they can remain infectious on inanimate surfaces for up to nine days at room temperature, but they can become inactive using common disinfectants." -- be informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted March 3, 2020 Share #116 Posted March 3, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted March 3, 2020 Share #117 Posted March 3, 2020 “You should never destroy your own credibility. And you don't want to go to war with a president,” Fauci, who has been the country’s top infectious diseases expert through a dozen outbreaks and six presidents, told POLITICO in an interview Friday. “But you got to walk the fine balance of making sure you continue to tell the truth.” And the truth about coronavirus? “I don't think that we are going to get out of this completely unscathed,” he said. “I think that this is going to be one of those things we look back on and say boy, that was bad.” https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/03/anthony-fauci-trump-coronavirus-crisis-118961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #118 Posted March 4, 2020 https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazon/amazon-employee-in-seattle-has-tested-positive-for-illness-caused-by-coronavirus/?utm_medium=notification&utm_source=pushly&utm_campaign=489542 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #119 Posted March 4, 2020 I'm on the bus and just fucking sneezed into my armpit. But that sneeze felt different and now I am paranoid. It was one of those that tingled through my body with ache as if to say red alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted March 4, 2020 Share #120 Posted March 4, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 10:17 AM, 12string said: An interesting and unique problem we have here in America, where the spread of the virus is just getting started: 2 in 5 workers in retail, hospitality, food service - jobs that have the most contact with the most people - have neither health insurance nor paid sick time. So, due to our insistence that "social" medicine or government mandated paid leave would somehow spell the end of society, the people most able to spread the virus are also the people most encouraged to not seek treatment and be in contact with hundreds of people each day. Still going to Burger King for lunch? Think you might hear a cough or two over the grill? I've been wondering about this all along in the U.S. because of your health care system which discourages those who are caught in between without private health care benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted March 4, 2020 Share #121 Posted March 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dottles said: I'm on the bus and just fucking sneezed into my armpit. But that sneeze felt different and now I am paranoid. It was one of those that tingled through my body with ache as if to say red alert. ...the second night I had whatever this is, I woke myself up every hour because my breathing was making that crackling sound you get with mild pneumonia. I hadn't had that for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #122 Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, shootingstar said: I've been wondering about this all along in the U.S. because of your health care system which discourages those who are caught in between without private health care benefit. It's a system designed for the haves plain and simple. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #123 Posted March 4, 2020 There goes some effer sneaking on the bus. I have no use for him. It was a half assed attempt to cover it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #124 Posted March 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, Page Turner said: ...the second night I had whatever this is, I woke myself up every hour because my breathing was making that crackling sound you get with mild pneumonia. I hadn't had that for a long time. So you had pneumonia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #125 Posted March 4, 2020 I went in about mid-afternoon and sure enough it was a ghost town. I'm going back in this morning and expecting to see ghosts. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/seattle-ghost-town-residents-face-uncertainty-growing-coronavirus-outbreak-n1148941 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #126 Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Dottles said: I went in about mid-afternoon and sure enough it was a ghost town. I'm going back in this morning and expecting to see ghosts. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/seattle-ghost-town-residents-face-uncertainty-growing-coronavirus-outbreak-n1148941 You might see dead people. This is gallows humor as there really isn't anything funny about the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #127 Posted March 4, 2020 3 hours ago, maddmaxx said: You might see dead people. This is gallows humor as there really isn't anything funny about the situation. It's my way of dealing with it. Please ignore it if it bothers you. You and I are probably the only ones taking this the most serious or at least willing to talk about it. My wife literally works in the epicenter where all this is breaking out. I laugh at those who tell me not to panic in their isolated, insulated worlds. I'm not nearly panicking. Just using dark humor to help me get through it. It stands to reason that somebody in her care center catches it and passes on through her office and she brings it home to me. I would say of all the people who post in this forum, I am the most likely to get it (first). It should also be noted I have heart disease -- which puts me in the higher risk category. A reminder to those reading this, our bodies have no antibodies to fight this. We are all vulnerable. This from my wife who literally works in a branch of EvergreenHealth 3 miles from the assisted living senior home which has had numerous deaths: "We have quarantine exam rooms set up at work for potentially infected patients that have to be pre screened and come in through a side door normally only used by staff. This is real. Have been loading up much more frequently than usual on the hand sanitizer & hand washing." I repeat if you our fortunate to live in an area not hit, it's only a matter of time before you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted March 4, 2020 Share #128 Posted March 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dottles said: our bodies have no antibodies to fight this This is the part people are forgetting when comparing it to the flu. Latest fatality rate estimate is 3.4% We're not a health care facility, and we set up a quarantine room. They are also getting those non contact thermometers, apparently they expect to walk around and randomly check suspects. Not sure about the legality of these measures. We also are now required to take laptops home every night, in case anyone in our house catches it, at which time we're required to work from home for 2 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted March 4, 2020 Share #129 Posted March 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dottles said: I would say of all the people who post in this forum, I am the most likely to get it (first). A reminder to those reading this, our bodies have no antibodies to fight this. We are all vulnerable. If I get it I am blaming you for spreading it through this forum. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #130 Posted March 4, 2020 Eldest son is now teaching 4 nights a week on a schedule more like that of the school in China. That means he teaches for a couple of hours, then later for a couple more. Then he stays on the computer for what amounts to office hours. Basically he's going to be up most all nights and sleep during parts of the day. This requires that we abandon the room he's teaching in and at other times sleep while he's teaching. In spite of his being here since early January we still question every cough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted March 4, 2020 Share #131 Posted March 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Dottles said: So you had pneumonia? ...yeah, but pretty mild. I've had it before. It seems to have been pretty limited, and not deeper in the lobes. I'll be hacking up lungers for a couple of weeks, and then everything will be back to normal. Meanwhile, I'll stay home a lot so I don't cough and get reported to the CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #132 Posted March 4, 2020 Hot off the presses from the CDC that was just delivered to my wife's office. Sorry don't have time to rotate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 4, 2020 Share #133 Posted March 4, 2020 Ok, who is gonna be first on the forum to get it? it is starting up here, so it will probably ramp up really quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #134 Posted March 4, 2020 Odds are good I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Razors Edge ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #137 Posted March 4, 2020 I don't get how 80% will likely have it, but they are sort of downplaying the infection rate (0.5% for randoms, 10% for living with). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 4, 2020 Share #138 Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: Ok, who is gonna be first on the forum to get it? it is starting up here, so it will probably ramp up really quickly. I volunteer. I would like to get it, kick it's ass, and then become a spokesperson for the "Stop-Freaking-Out-Over-Every-Little-Virus Organization"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 4, 2020 Share #139 Posted March 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Lotsa round numbers in there. That usually means they have shit for data and they are making stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #140 Posted March 4, 2020 Just now, Randomguy said: Lotsa round numbers in there. That usually means they have shit for data and they are making stuff up. They did bold some stuff. That screams important and factual. What is your kid's school saying or doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #141 Posted March 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Road Runner said: I volunteer. I would like to get it, kick it's ass, and then become a spokesperson for the "Stop-Freaking-Out-Over-Every-Little-Virus Organization"! RR I would not say talking about it or staying informed is freaking out about it. I continue to go to work and will continue to go work through the epicenter of the breakout. I will even transfer from the comfy of my RAV4 to public transportation in the epicenter while going in for a coffee before I go into the heart of the city. In my book, that's not freaking out. Actually I wish I'd catch a milder version of it so my body understands how to kick it's ass. Right now, though, it surely is doing the ass kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 4, 2020 Share #142 Posted March 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: They did bold some stuff. That screams important and factual. What is your kid's school saying or doing? They are saying everybody isn’t screwed until they are. That will certainly be coming, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #143 Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: They are saying everybody isn’t screwed until they are. That will certainly be coming, though. Teaching the kids to wash their hands for 20 seconds. But probably have dirty doors on their bathrooms. And those desks likely never get Lysoled. Can you give her some disinfectant wipes to swab her desk with and the lunch table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #144 Posted March 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dottles said: freaking out about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 4, 2020 Share #145 Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: Teaching the kids to wash their hands for 20 seconds. But probably have dirty doors on their bathrooms. And those desks likely never get Lysoled. Can you give her some disinfectant wipes to swab her desk with and the lunch table? Have you ever seen a child? Their attention to detail is lacking, as is their ability to connect washing hands with lack of illness. Kids touch everything, then touch eyes, nose, mouths. They are transmission vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #146 Posted March 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Randomguy said: They are transmission vehicles. This they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #147 Posted March 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Kids touch everything, then touch eyes, nose, mouths. They are transmission vehicles. It was great to have you here while we did! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #148 Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Dottles said: Hot off the presses from the CDC that was just delivered to my wife's office. Sorry don't have time to rotate it. Don't you wish you trusted him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 4, 2020 Share #149 Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: I don't get how 80% will likely have it, but they are sort of downplaying the infection rate (0.5% for randoms, 10% for living with). Because you will be exposed hundreds of times a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted March 4, 2020 Share #150 Posted March 4, 2020 "Flu-like symptoms" is a pretty general term. Exactly what symptoms does the CDC mean? They specifically mention fever and I've seen 'shortness of breath'. What about diarrhea? Vomiting? Will I be shooting it out both ends? What about aches and pains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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