12string Posted March 19, 2021 Share #1 Posted March 19, 2021 It's always up. Not down, South is down. How do we know that? We have all the pictures of the solar system, and relative to the sun and the orbit, North is up. But what if the sun is upside down? How do we know it's not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted March 19, 2021 Share #2 Posted March 19, 2021 ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Razors Edge ★ Posted March 19, 2021 Share #4 Posted March 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, 12string said: What if we're wrong about North? Why's it gotta be all about "North"?!?!! Without South, there IS NO North! A little consideration for the other folks might be in order, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 19, 2021 Share #5 Posted March 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, 12string said: It's always up. Not down, South is down. How do we know that? We have all the pictures of the solar system, and relative to the sun and the orbit, North is up. But what if the sun is upside down? How do we know it's not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted March 19, 2021 Share #6 Posted March 19, 2021 So what you're really saying is that we don't know if we're standing on our heads or not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 19, 2021 Share #7 Posted March 19, 2021 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted March 19, 2021 Share #8 Posted March 19, 2021 Actually it's East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc2000 Posted March 19, 2021 Share #9 Posted March 19, 2021 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted March 19, 2021 Share #10 Posted March 19, 2021 Is this better? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 19, 2021 Share #11 Posted March 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said: Is this better? That's a neat ride idea: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted March 19, 2021 Share #12 Posted March 19, 2021 I thought this was going to be about Oliver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted March 19, 2021 Share #13 Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, 12string said: It's always up. Not down, South is down. How do we know that? We have all the pictures of the solar system, and relative to the sun and the orbit, North is up. But what if the sun is upside down? How do we know it's not? Also complicating things is that the Earth flip-flops N-S poles - at least a dozen times in the last 780,000 years - so that the North Magnetic Pole is near the South Pole and the South Magnetic Pole is near the North Pole. 41,000 years ago, shortly after modern humans arrived in Europe, it slowly flipped over a 1000 year period, then flipped back in another 500 years to about where it is now - the north and south magnetic pole wander slightly. If the people who first seriously investigated geography had lived in the southern hemisphere, we'd probably be calling South up and North down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 19, 2021 Share #14 Posted March 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, JerrySTL said: Actually it's East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted March 19, 2021 Share #15 Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, MickinMD said: Also complicating things is that the Earth flip-flops N-S poles - at least a dozen times in the last 780,000 years - so that the North Magnetic Pole is near the South Pole and the South Magnetic Pole is near the North Pole. 41,000 years ago, shortly after modern humans arrived in Europe, it slowly flipped over a 1000 year period, then flipped back in another 500 years to about where it is now - the north and south magnetic pole wander slightly. If the people who first seriously investigated geography had lived in the southern hemisphere, we'd probably be calling South up and North down. One of the reasons it took so long to find the Franklin expedition boats was in Inuit culture, regardless of where you were, maps were always drawn with the drawers home at the top with no real reference to NSEW. When I was up there, compasses are not used because they are not accurate and so in winter everything is done by dead reckoning. If you cant see, you build camp, boil tea and wait until you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted March 19, 2021 Share #16 Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Without South, there IS NO North! A little consideration for the other folks might be in order, eh? No....., South is the red-headed step child of directions. East is the sun rise, West is the sun set, North was known for 'Polaris' and was one of the earliest aids to navigation and South was just 'that other random place that probably has a purpose but no one knows what' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 20, 2021 Share #17 Posted March 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Longjohn said: I thought this was going to be about Oliver. That's a twist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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