Square Wheels Posted May 19, 2017 Share #1 Posted May 19, 2017 I have made the hard decision of not doing the Mt Washington hill ride. I lost three months of training with the knee issue. The best I can do at this point is a gentle ride, once I get over 200 watts it starts to hurt. 300+ hurts a lot. That ride cost me a fortune, both in trainer / gym costs and registration. I might be able to get some of the registration cost back. I am very sad. I put a lot in to this starting last fall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Maynard Posted May 19, 2017 Share #2 Posted May 19, 2017 Au contraire! I would be proud of you for being sensible and not pushing through to the point of permanent injury for silly reasons. Are you still doing the run? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BuffJim Posted May 19, 2017 Popular Post Share #3 Posted May 19, 2017 We couldn't possibly think any less of you. Sorry you have to abandon one of your dreams. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Square Wheels Posted May 19, 2017 Author Popular Post Share #4 Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Reverend_Maynard said: Are you still doing the run? As of today, I still plan to do the run. My PT isn't surprised that running on flat ground hurts, but running uphill doesn't hurt, or hurts a lot less. He says that's the typs of sprain I have. I am currently at 3 miles every other day. Next week I start 4. If I can get to 5 miles, I will definitely do it. I have stopped the anti-inflammatories. Been getting mixed messages on continuing to take it. I took them for almost two weeks and the knee felt great, I heard it might not be great but being masked and I might be damaging it. 1 minute ago, BuffJim said: We couldn't possibly think any less of you. Some people don't see this as humor, but clearly a lot of what I post is me setting it up for others. Most of the time my lead ins are missed, clearly this one was too obvious. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted May 19, 2017 Share #5 Posted May 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, BuffJim said: We couldn't possibly think any less of you. Sorry you have to abandon one of your dreams. This except I'd use the word postpone... heal up and get after it again in the future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted May 19, 2017 Share #6 Posted May 19, 2017 That really sucks - I know how hard you were working to improve on your ride from last year, as well as the other events. At some point you'll look back on it as just a minor speed bump. Let it heal and get back out there when you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted May 19, 2017 Share #7 Posted May 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: As of today, I still plan to do the run. My PT isn't surprised that running on flat ground hurts, but running uphill doesn't hurt, or hurts a lot less. He says that's the typs of sprain I have. I am currently at 3 miles every other day. Next week I start 4. If I can get to 5 miles, I will definitely do it. I have stopped the anti-inflammatories. Been getting mixed messages on continuing to take it. I took them for almost two weeks and the knee felt great, I heard it might not be great but being masked and I might be damaging it. Some people don't see this as humor, but clearly a lot of what I post is me setting it up for others. Most of the time my lead ins are missed, clearly this one was too obvious. When I see a softball coming in over the sweet part of the plate, even I can hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #8 Posted May 19, 2017 Will you people think any less of me? Unpossible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted May 19, 2017 Share #9 Posted May 19, 2017 Abandoning a goal is tough on you mentally. Good on ya for recognizing that it had to be done. That takes strength and courage to bow down. I have had to bow down on several goals, post MS. One of them being a dirt century. I decided that my health was more important than some macho goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #10 Posted May 19, 2017 No. <fails again to let lead pass> However I have respect for those who know when to fold um. Spend the time doing a good and proper healing and start planning on next year. On the other hand......I'll never do the Washington Hill Climb. Probably not even in my car. So you can judge your worth compared to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share #11 Posted May 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Probably not even in my car. This is terrifying. I've also done it on a motorcycle with a passenger. That was the most terrifying trip up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted May 19, 2017 Share #12 Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Square Wheels said: This is terrifying. I've also done it on a motorcycle with a passenger. That was the most terrifying trip up. I drove up and down it last September. BuffCarla was a nervous wreck. I must admit I handled it with skill. Although not sure how fun it would be in sketchy weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted May 19, 2017 Share #13 Posted May 19, 2017 I am confused. Was it the running that started the knee issue? What happens when you ride now, do you get a lot of knee pain? I ask because it is a long time between now and the ride, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted May 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, Randomguy said: I am confused. Was it the running that started the knee issue? What happens when you ride now, do you get a lot of knee pain? I ask because it is a long time between now and the ride, isn't it? We suspect it was weak hip muscles and running / cycling that caused the knee to falter. I cannot run on flat ground still without pain, it's been months. I've only been doing gentle rides on the rollers, I recently did a few outside rides. Yesterday I did a dozen or so relatively flat miles. The knee was a little achy. I went up a bump, not hard at all, but my knee was complaining. It was may 6 or 8% and a quarter mile. All I kept thinking was 12% for almost 8 miles. My knee would never be able to do that. Yes, there is still three months, but I would never be able to get in shape for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted May 19, 2017 Share #15 Posted May 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Square Wheels said: Will you people think any less of me? I was going to say unpossible, but BJ and Wilbur beat me to it. Now I'm sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #16 Posted May 19, 2017 Hells no, you are a good shit. You made the right decision for you. Treat yourself well and I will try also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parodybot Posted May 19, 2017 Share #17 Posted May 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #18 Posted May 19, 2017 Don't screw yourself up, good decision IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 19, 2017 Share #19 Posted May 19, 2017 Too bad SW, but the right call. I applaud the effort, I am impressed enough with your last years ride. What is the plan? Heal and try for next year, or is the injury the type to result in having to abandon it altogether. I only ask because if you are done, you need to put that freaky teeny weeny front chain ring in a frame with s pic of you climbing last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share #20 Posted May 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, Zephyr said: What is the plan? Heal and try for next year, or is the injury the type to result in having to abandon it altogether. I'm also really sad about the run. My goal was to run the entire distance, now I just want to get to the top. No one has told me this is a permanent injury or will continue to recur. I do have more exercises I need to do to be able to sustain longer runs, need to get the hips stronger. I plan to do the run and ride next year as long as I can start training this fall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parodybot Posted May 19, 2017 Share #21 Posted May 19, 2017 jsharr is out of posts, but I am sure if he could post he would post something, witty, insightful, encouraging and uplifting. I on the other hand only have this to offer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted May 19, 2017 Share #22 Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Square Wheels said: I have stopped the anti-inflammatories. Been getting mixed messages on continuing to take it. I took them for almost two weeks and the knee felt great, I heard it might not be great but being masked and I might be damaging it. From my experience, anti-inflammatories are an excellent therapy device. Having a lot of long-term inflammation anywhere in your body isn't doing you any good and can be a factor in the development of atherosclerosis. Anti-inflammatories don't mask pain, they reduce the inflammation which is the cause of much of the pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted May 19, 2017 Share #23 Posted May 19, 2017 3 hours ago, BuffJim said: Sorry you have to abandon one of your dreams. I would suggest substituting, rather than abandoning. The Seagull Century has, like, -15 feet of elevation, or something. Some people here spoke of doing that. Rhode Island is fairly flat too, with some good rail trails. You could even do a ride around the entire state in, what, half an hour? So pick another goal, one within your present physical capabilities, one for which you can keep training (albeit more mildly). It will help keep you physically fit and more importantly help give you a positive mental focus so you dwell less on your disappointment about the Mt. Washington ride. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parodybot Posted May 19, 2017 Share #24 Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: I would suggest substituting, rather than abandoning. The Seagull Century has something like, -15 feet of elevation, or something. Some people here spoke of doing that. Rhode Island is fairly flat too, with some good rail trails. You could even do a ride around the entire state in, what, half an hour? So pick another goal, one within your present physical capabilities, one for which you can keep training (albeit more mildly). It will help keep you physically fit and more importantly help give you a positive mental focus so you dwell less on your disappointment about the Mt. Washington ride. I am pretty sure that is what jsharr would have posted. Texas is flat too. You should fly to Texas and ride with jsharr. You could easily drop his fat ass, which would make you feel better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted May 19, 2017 Share #25 Posted May 19, 2017 Sorry you won't be able to do the ride this year, but proud of you for being smart and listening to your body. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share #26 Posted May 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, parodybot said: I am pretty sure that is what jsharr would have posted. Texas is flat too. You should fly to Texas and ride with jsharr. You could easily drop his fat ass, which would make you feel better. I would like to ride with him some day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted May 19, 2017 Share #27 Posted May 19, 2017 NSAIDS are best for acute troubles. If you pop them long term, something worse is at play. And when you take them, some people tend to push too hard. They can't feel their body screaming "UNCLE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted May 19, 2017 Share #28 Posted May 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: I would like to ride with him some day. You should want to ride with me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #29 Posted May 19, 2017 No worries. I always thought less of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #30 Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: You should want to ride with me. I would love to ride with you but it wouldn't be fun for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted May 19, 2017 Share #31 Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, dotman17 said: I would love to ride with you but it wouldn't be fun for you. How do you know what I find fun. Seeing people ride is fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share #32 Posted May 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: You should want to ride with me. I would love to ride with you, I know you would be a great teacher in the dirt, a place I've never ridden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #33 Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Dirtyhip said: How do you know what I find fun. Seeing people ride is fun. I have been off the bike for about 7 months now. Plus I did a beginner/intermediate trail outside of Moab and it pushed me. 8 miles and I was wiped out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted May 19, 2017 Share #34 Posted May 19, 2017 Well...I for one think that you should do it.....I mean are you really some sort of a big girl's blouse or what? So what if you damage something or something falls off....it's part of being a man Sweetpants...I mean take me for example. Never....never ...have I failed to take up a challenge....no Siree. I met each and every one head-on and no-one could ever say that I was a big Jessie.....never. Now it is true that I can't walk so good these days and that my broken back is never going to be any better...oh ...and my knees are completely knackered so I spend a lot of time sitting down....but I like to read anyway and I'm pretty old so it's not so bad...I have my pride...yes indeedy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #35 Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, Square Wheels said: I would love to ride with you, I know you would be a great teacher in the dirt, a place I've never ridden. She's the Queen of dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted May 19, 2017 Share #36 Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, dotman17 said: She's the Queen of dirt. I don't know about this....I mean it seems so............unfeminine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #37 Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, onbike1939 said: I don't know about this....I mean it seems so............unfeminine. DH rocks. Where you been my favorite Scotsman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladyP Posted May 19, 2017 Share #38 Posted May 19, 2017 Jens Voigt will call you a little baby girlie man. He may also tell you to get a tan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted May 19, 2017 Share #39 Posted May 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, onbike1939 said: Well...I for one think that you should do it.....I mean are you really some sort of a big girl's blouse or what? So what if you damage something or something falls off....it's part of being a man Sweetpants...I mean take me for example. Never....never ...have I failed to take up a challenge....no Siree. I met each and every one head-on and no-one could ever say that I was a big Jessie.....never. Now it is true that I can't walk so good these days and that my broken back is never going to be any better...oh ...and my knees are completely knackered so I spend a lot of time sitting down....but I like to read anyway and I'm pretty old so it's not so bad...I have my pride...yes indeedy. Girl's blouse? Girls can be very strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted May 19, 2017 Share #40 Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, dotman17 said: DH rocks. Where you been my favorite Scotsman? I look in regularly but see nothing particularly earth-shattering to comment upon. I suppose I could post about the state of my colon but most people snigger...which is a pity as it's really interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #41 Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, onbike1939 said: I look in regularly but see nothing particularly earth-shattering to comment upon. I suppose I could post about the state of my colon but most people snigger...which is a pity as it's really interesting. Colon?? Now you'vyou've got something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #42 Posted May 19, 2017 Have you ever thought about becoming a downhill racer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladyP Posted May 19, 2017 Share #43 Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, onbike1939 said: I look in regularly but see nothing particularly earth-shattering to comment upon. I suppose I could post about the state of my colon but most people snigger...which is a pity as it's really interesting. I am not sure I am ready for that. Can we start with a semi colon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted May 19, 2017 Share #44 Posted May 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Girl's blouse? Girls can be very strong. I know this....and they can have scabby knees too which is equally off-putting. You should give all this rough, mucky sort of thing up and buy yourself a push-up bra and girly things....this may be hard to hear but I'm telling you this for your own good.....I know about these things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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onbike1939 Posted May 19, 2017 Share #46 Posted May 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Cardinal Ximinez of Spain said: I am not sure I am ready for that. Can we start with a semi colon? Well I suppose we could but I think I'd be short-changing you. I could start with my small colon and if you can bear it move on to the large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladyP Posted May 19, 2017 Share #47 Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, onbike1939 said: I know this....and they can have scabby knees too which is equally off-putting. You should give all this rough, mucky sort of thing up and buy yourself a push-up bra and girly things....this may be hard to hear but I'm telling you this for your own good.....I know about these things. This shit is gonna be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted May 19, 2017 Share #48 Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, maddmaxx said: Sorry....you need some attention max.......how are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted May 19, 2017 Share #49 Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, onbike1939 said: I know this....and they can have scabby knees too which is equally off-putting. You should give all this rough, mucky sort of thing up and buy yourself a push-up bra and girly things....this may be hard to hear but I'm telling you this for your own good.....I know about these things. Scabs happen, when you go hard. Having a mad set of skills is way sexy, and I can still dress up when I am done. I'd rather spend valuable time learning to clean a section of black diamond trail over spending time painting nails and putting on mascara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 19, 2017 Share #50 Posted May 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, onbike1939 said: Sorry....you need some attention max.......how are you? No. I'm just waiting for DH to ride across to Scotland and kick your ass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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