maddmaxx ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #851 Posted April 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: He calls it a boat, so I call it a boat. It would be sort of nuts to call it different than the guy on it. A boat is a submarine. Other navy vessels are ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #852 Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, maddmaxx said: A boat is a submarine. Other navy vessels are ships. I'm quoting the active duty sailor. I call things ships, boats, dinghies, whatever. I couldn't care less. He, on the other hand, is in the mix and I will defer to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 17, 2020 Share #853 Posted April 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I haven't gotten $1,200 I am unstimulated, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted April 17, 2020 Share #854 Posted April 17, 2020 I haven't even been following what my employer said earlier this wk. I'm on vacation this wk. In Calgary area for past wk.or so, if resident has symptoms, they can ask for testing and...get it without refusal. So authorities have broadened the priorities for testing beyond health care workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 17, 2020 Share #855 Posted April 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I call things ships, boats, dinghies, whatever. If it floats on water and is powered by motor or wind, it is a boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 17, 2020 Share #856 Posted April 17, 2020 1 minute ago, shootingstar said: if resident has symptoms, they can ask for testing and...get it without refusal. As far as I know, it is still exceedingly difficult for anyone but celebrities and athletes to get tests in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted April 17, 2020 Share #857 Posted April 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Randomguy said: As far as I know, it is still exceedingly difficult for anyone but celebrities and athletes to get tests in the US. In Toronto and Vancouver, you do have to manifest the symptoms of covid to get the test. Canadian federal health regulatory authority has just approved a portable test module kit that will show negative or positive result in a few hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted April 17, 2020 Share #858 Posted April 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Randomguy said: As far as I know, it is still exceedingly difficult for anyone but celebrities and athletes to get tests in the US. You're being a little facetious....after all, with the known reported AMerican covid case numbers, some peasant folk got tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted April 17, 2020 Share #859 Posted April 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: ... get at least one thing right! Are you crazy?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #860 Posted April 17, 2020 1 minute ago, donkpow said: Are you crazy?! Has that mattered in the past? What changed now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted April 17, 2020 Share #861 Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, Razors Edge said: Has that mattered in the past? What changed now? Right. We were having a good laugh over this last night. Mostly the site where you go to find your payment and sign up for direct deposit. We didn't give it any thought until it didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 17, 2020 Share #862 Posted April 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, shootingstar said: You're being a little facetious....after all, with the known reported AMerican covid case numbers, some peasant folk got tested. Only upon hospitalization or living or working closely with someone positive. This is what everybody is saying, along with doctor's and nurses can't get tested unless falling in line with the listed conditions, which is really screwed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 17, 2020 Share #863 Posted April 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Sadly, my wife and I have absolutely ZERO need or desire for a stimulus check. Whatever we get will just sit in the bank - snoozing away - as we slowly stockpile more and more cash due to nothing to spend it on. I'd 100% rather have all that unneeded $$$ (we can't be the only people in our boat) spent on addressing the PPE and testing and planning/coordinating and global response to this COVID-19 stuff. Send it to me, I will put it to good use immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #864 Posted April 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: Send it to me, I will put it to good use immediately. Who got ROs $500???? Do you get to split that? Does she get to pick out what to buy with her $$$? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #865 Posted April 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I'm quoting the active duty sailor. I call things ships, boats, dinghies, whatever. I couldn't care less. He, on the other hand, is in the mix and I will defer to him You choice. One can lead a horse to water but you can't leave his ass behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 17, 2020 Share #866 Posted April 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Who got ROs $500???? Of course the ex is taking it all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #867 Posted April 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Of course the ex is taking it all. But does RO get to pick out $500 worth of pink plastic stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted April 17, 2020 Share #868 Posted April 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Randomguy said: Send it to me, I will put it to good use immediately. Exactly! "stimulus" while reason for the economic collapse still exists is a complete waste of money. If I ever get my money, it's going to sit, because I can't spend it where it will stimulate the people who need stimulating (get your mind outta the gutter) The people that need the $1200 right now, need more than $1200. They need rent money, food money, pay the electric bill money. And that money is sitting in the bank account of a couple making up tp $150K, and still getting a paycheck. It is a vote buy, not a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #869 Posted April 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, 12string said: Exactly! "stimulus" while reason for the economic collapse still exists is a complete waste of money. If I ever get my money, it's going to sit, because I can't spend it where it will stimulate the people who need stimulating (get your mind outta the gutter) The people that need the $1200 right now, need more than $1200. They need rent money, food money, pay the electric bill money. And that money is sitting in the bank account of a couple making up tp $150K, and still getting a paycheck. It is a vote buy, not a solution. I guess, in my case, I see some of it going to some local charities who need some help, but it seems a round-about way to help. It's a shame, but not unexpected, that the execution of technical stuff like this is poorly done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #870 Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, 12string said: Exactly! "stimulus" while reason for the economic collapse still exists is a complete waste of money. If I ever get my money, it's going to sit, because I can't spend it where it will stimulate the people who need stimulating (get your mind outta the gutter) The people that need the $1200 right now, need more than $1200. They need rent money, food money, pay the electric bill money. And that money is sitting in the bank account of a couple making up tp $150K, and still getting a paycheck. It is a vote buy, not a solution. It's classic trickle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 17, 2020 Share #871 Posted April 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: It's classic trickle down. I remain a firm believer of trickle up and not trickle down. It's scary to think there are any normal folks in support of the lie that was trickle down economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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donkpow Posted April 17, 2020 Share #873 Posted April 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I remain a firm believer of trickle up and not trickle down. It's scary to think there are any normal folks in support of the lie that was trickle down economics. It's a shame that the money didn't go out as early as appeared was intended. It was supposed to go like, close everything down and send everyone enough money to get by for a month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted April 17, 2020 Share #874 Posted April 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, donkpow said: It's a shame that the money didn't go out as early as appeared was intended. It was supposed to go like, close everything down and send everyone enough money to get by for a month. On my walk today I stoppedat the corner bar because my friend the owner was there working on the computer paying bills. Since Wisconsin is shut down until the end of next month he said that there's a good chance that he won't be able to stay in business. I also heard that the only coffee shop in town might be going under. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted April 17, 2020 Share #875 Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, BR46 said: Since Wisconsin is shut down until the end of next month he said that there's a good chance that he won't be able to stay in business. I also heard that the only coffee shop in town might be going under. That is very sad. If he doesn't survive this then the economic nitch he fills will be replaced by some generic bar like Applebees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted April 17, 2020 Share #876 Posted April 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mr. Grumpy said: That is very sad. If he doesn't survive this then the economic nitch he fills will be replaced by some generic bar like Applebees. The building is protected under the historic downtown mainstream. This is a small town where the downtown is 4 blocks long and struggling to keep businesses open on a good day. 3 restaurants in the downtown area are still open for carry out only but when I talked to the owners they the carry out alone is not paying the bills. It's tuff times for all the small mom and pop business owners while the big box stores the next town over remain open. This little town everything was forced to shut down except 4 stores and they are open with reduced hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share #877 Posted April 18, 2020 I don't know about you guys -- but that stimulus check put me in a pretty good position on the credit card front. It made a nice sizeable dent. Hey, credit card companies need love too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Share #878 Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Dottles said: I don't know about you guys -- but that stimulus check put me in a pretty good position on the credit card front. It made a nice sizeable dent. Hey, credit card companies need love too. Far too much stimulus money went to large corporations and far to little went to the small business owners it was meant for. Business as usual in America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted April 18, 2020 Share #879 Posted April 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Far too much stimulus money went to large corporations and far to little went to the small business owners it was meant for. Business as usual in America. The house next door has 2 new big screen tv's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prophet Zacharia Posted April 18, 2020 Popular Post Share #880 Posted April 18, 2020 I’ve been doing takeout from a local restaurant about once a week, and buying beer from my favorite local brewpub more often than I care to admit. Tipping as if I was dining in. I feel fortunate to be working through all of this. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted April 18, 2020 Share #881 Posted April 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Far too much stimulus money went to large corporations and far to little went to the small business owners it was meant for. Business as usual in America. I am a small business. I got approved 2 days ago. The SBA put this in the hands of the banks. That’s the only way to make it happen quickly. So it was a function of you relationship with your bank. So far 349 billion (billion with a has gone to businesses with 500 and fewer employees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Share #882 Posted April 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: I’ve been doing takeout from a local restaurant about once a week, and buying beer from my favorite local brewpub more often than I care to admit. Tipping as if I was dining in. I feel fortunate to be working through all of this. One brewery here does only crowlers, and the other I think sells those, as well as cheap growlers that are new each time, not refilled. Bought my first crowlers last weekend. I like supporting the smaller and more modest brewery. The big popular one has more customers I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Share #883 Posted April 18, 2020 42 minutes ago, Kzoo said: I am a small business. I got approved 2 days ago. The SBA put this in the hands of the banks. That’s the only way to make it happen quickly. So it was a function of you relationship with your bank. So far 349 billion (billion with a has gone to businesses with 500 and fewer employees. 349 billion was the total amount available before the fund ran out of money. Early evidence suggests that the efforts have disproportionately helped manufacturers and construction firms at the expense of the hospitality businesses — including restaurants, bars and hotels — that have suffered the highest rates of job loss in a month in which nearly 17 million Americans have filed for unemployment. The loans are allocated on a first-come, first-served basis, an approach that has favored businesses that have existing relationships with lenders and the resources to navigate the government application process. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/politics/coronavirus-small-business-program.html?auth=login-email&login=email It's too bad that most of the restaurants and actual small business owners have a lot fewer than 500 employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 18, 2020 Share #884 Posted April 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: One brewery here does only crowlers, and the other I think sells those, as well as cheap growlers that are new each time, not refilled. Bought my first crowlers last weekend. I like supporting the smaller and more modest brewery. The big popular one has more customers I am sure. I have never heard of a crowler before, but it makes sense! https://www.bonappetit.com/drinks/beer/article/what-is-a-crowler-beer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted April 18, 2020 Share #885 Posted April 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: I have never heard of a crowler before, but it makes sense! https://www.bonappetit.com/drinks/beer/article/what-is-a-crowler-beer I have a few of them and the taverns around here will fill them with you favorite microbrew. I'm trying my best at trying to keep the small businesses in town alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted April 18, 2020 Share #886 Posted April 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: 349 billion was the total amount available before the fund ran out of money. Early evidence suggests that the efforts have disproportionately helped manufacturers and construction firms at the expense of the hospitality businesses — including restaurants, bars and hotels — that have suffered the highest rates of job loss in a month in which nearly 17 million Americans have filed for unemployment. The loans are allocated on a first-come, first-served basis, an approach that has favored businesses that have existing relationships with lenders and the resources to navigate the government application process. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/politics/coronavirus-small-business-program.html?auth=login-email&login=email It's too bad that most of the restaurants and actual small business owners have a lot fewer than 500 employees. The government application process was less than 2 pages. There was no personal guarantee and no collateral requirement. They could NOT make it any simpler. And if a small business doesn’t have a relationship with a bank, who’s fault is that. The SBA And state Small Business organizations across the country were offering help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Share #887 Posted April 18, 2020 41 minutes ago, Kzoo said: The government application process was less than 2 pages. There was no personal guarantee and no collateral requirement. They could NOT make it any simpler. And if a small business doesn’t have a relationship with a bank, who’s fault is that. The SBA And state Small Business organizations across the country were offering help. Did you get the part that they were beat out by large companies? Small business gets screwed again as a ma and pa restaurant might take an extra day to fill out forms while trying to cook enough to stay alive. Frankly if this was going to companies with 500 employees instead of those with 7 or 8 then it was another typical bs slush fund. main street USA: Platteville Wisconson where they really needed the money. you're right, their fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted April 18, 2020 Share #888 Posted April 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Did you get the part that they were beat out by large companies? Small business gets screwed again as a ma and pa restaurant might take an extra day to fill out forms while trying to cook enough to stay alive. Frankly if this was going to companies with 500 employees instead of those with 7 or 8 then it was another typical bs slush fund. main street USA: Platteville Wisconson where they really needed the money. you're right, their fault. You’re right I’m out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted April 18, 2020 Share #889 Posted April 18, 2020 Here's an interesting article about testing. Tl;dr: We're testing the wrong people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Share #890 Posted April 18, 2020 My local paper is running polls about how many would go back to life as normal if they opened up tomorrow. A full third have no issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Karen_Cooper_Incident Posted April 18, 2020 Share #891 Posted April 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Kzoo said: You’re right I’m out How dare you! Agree with Maxx right now! With that said, I'm really happy the process worked out well for your company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share #892 Posted April 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Allen said: My local paper is running polls about how many would go back to life as normal if they opened up tomorrow. A full third have no issue with it. Why are you not like these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Share #893 Posted April 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dottles said: Why are you not like these people? I thank my folks everyday for my education. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share #894 Posted April 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Allen said: I thank my folks everyday for my education. Fucking liberal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted April 18, 2020 Share #895 Posted April 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Tipping as if I was dining in. I've been tipping for carryout as well. I never did that before the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 18, 2020 Share #896 Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Dottles said: Fucking liberal. College boy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share #897 Posted April 19, 2020 Everyone keeps talking about the curve leveling. Frankly I am not seeing it. Where the hell is the horizontal line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share #898 Posted April 19, 2020 1 minute ago, FX_James_7.9 said: I would have thought you make too much money to qualify. If there is unemployment why do we need "Stimulus money" trump's name on the check? If I filed separately I would not have seen much. But because I am married, we fell below the cutoff line. Mr. Visa was happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted April 19, 2020 Share #899 Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Dottles said: Everyone keeps talking about the curve leveling. Frankly I am not seeing it. Where the hell is the horizontal line? First thing... the curves are based on testing. The problem is we can't test millions of people with tests that take days of lab work. They need a quick and simple test, which doesn't exist yet. Apparently there is a new quick finger prick blood test that is being developed, for COVID 19 antibodies. Then there is this comment about the new antibody test; Some scientists have also expressed misgivings about the accuracy and reliability of kits used in the studies. The interesting thing is... if the new test is indeed accurate for detecting COVID 19 antibodies, the actual infection rate for COVID 19 could be 50 to 80 TIMES greater that what is being reported. Based on the data we have.... I'd say the curve for the TOTAL number of cases is not leveling. The new number of cased per day is leveling. But then again... maybe that leveling is because that's the daily limit is testing? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted April 19, 2020 Share #900 Posted April 19, 2020 Some unintended consequences of being locked down at home. OMG... my cell phone bill for both of us. the data usage is 0.04 MB for the last month. We never exceeded 2MB in the past, but 0.04 MB is a new record low usage for our data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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