Razors Edge ★ Posted November 29, 2021 Share #1 Posted November 29, 2021 Man, took a week off riding (and really much exercise at all) for the Thanksgiving holiday break. Got home Sat night, and went for a ride Sun after lunch. Wow was is a beotch getting going again. I had time, so I could have ridden longer, but I was wise enough to listen to my body, and scale back my plans a bit. Made it home okay, but was wondering how such a short layoff could hurt so bad, and appreciative of how tough it must be for folks after longer lay-offs. I gotta say, the multi-thousand calorie days didn't help. Or the driving time sitting in a car. Or the sitting around the table or on couches chatting with family. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted November 29, 2021 Share #2 Posted November 29, 2021 It's easier to be lazy than working on being physically fit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 29, 2021 Share #3 Posted November 29, 2021 How is every day not a mutli-thousand calorie day? It isn't hard to eat two thousand calories, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted November 29, 2021 Share #4 Posted November 29, 2021 I miss exercising. Still can't run, can barely ride. I wish not exercising was a choice. This too shall pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 29, 2021 Share #5 Posted November 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: I miss exercising. Still can't run, can barely ride. I wish not exercising was a choice. This too shall pass. Why can't you run? Why can't you ride, other than the butt-ass cold of the crap season that is now upon us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Beanz Posted November 30, 2021 Share #6 Posted November 30, 2021 I can see why people never start. I think there is a point most people do not want to push themselves beyond. I have tried to encourage people to walk. But they make excuses, I walk 50 yards then I get tired. Really! Well if you are that much out of shape, it is going to take walking 50 yards OR LESS at a time till you can go beyond that point. But you have to want to go beyond that point. Walking 30 then giving up is not good. Going 50, then out of your comfort zone 60 next time is the way. But people give up too easy even before they start, IMO. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shootingstar Posted November 30, 2021 Share #8 Posted November 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, Mr Beanz said: I can see why people never start. I think there is a point most people do not want to push themselves beyond. I have tried to encourage people to walk. But they make excuses, I walk 50 yards then I get tired. Really! Well if you are that much out of shape, it is going to take walking 50 yards OR LESS at a time till you can go beyond that point. But you have to want to go beyond that point. Walking 30 then giving up is not good. Going 50, then out of your comfort zone 60 next time is the way. But people give up too easy even before they start, IMO. Some people are encouraged by having a buddy do same activity with them. However some of these folks sound as if they have been non-walking for ...over past a decade. For instance, I probably need to take class or 2, someone to show me how to do some weight lifting safely. The thing with me, I'm abit geospatially challenged, so I needed dearie to show me certain routes and how to join multiple routes together for a much longer route.Then later I would do on it my own and build up my knowledge, not just by looking at the bike map. Going on a long group rides might have not helped me because I would be worrying, trying to keep up and not paying attention to certain landmarks to memorize the route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Longjohn ★ Posted November 30, 2021 Popular Post Share #9 Posted November 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, shootingstar said: Some people are encouraged by having a buddy do same activity with them. However some of these folks sound as if they have been non-walking for ...over past a decade. For instance, I probably need to take class or 2, someone to show me how to do some weight lifting safely. The thing with me, I'm abit geospatially challenged, so I needed dearie to show me certain routes and how to join multiple routes together for a much longer route.Then later I would do on it my own and build up my knowledge, not just by looking at the bike map. Going on a long group rides might have not helped me because I would be worrying, trying to keep up and not paying attention to certain landmarks to memorize the route. I like to explore roads. I see a road I haven’t been on and I want to find out where it goes. I hardly ever get lost. The last time I was a bit confused about where I was I still had an Android phone and where I was I didn’t have a signal to check maps. I expected to be coming to a main road or at least a paved road but the gravel road went on and on for miles. It finally did take me out by the county line and I had to hustle to get home before dark. Now I have a Garmin and an iPhone and lights on both touring bikes so no problem. I don’t even have anyone at home worrying because I’m not back. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Beanz Posted November 30, 2021 Share #10 Posted November 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, shootingstar said: The thing with me, I'm abit geospatially challenged, so I needed dearie to show me certain routes and how to join multiple routes together for a much longer route.Then later I would do on it my own and build up my knowledge, not just by looking at the bike map. Going on a long group rides might have not helped me because I would be worrying, trying to keep up and not paying attention to certain landmarks to memorize the route. I can understand that! I rode with a group and it took me about 4 rides (once per week) to realize where I was though I was on roads that I pretty much knew already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted November 30, 2021 Share #11 Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Randomguy said: Why can't you run? Why can't you ride, other than the butt-ass cold of the crap season that is now upon us? Tendonitis, plantar fasciitis, give it whatever name you'd like. Seeing PT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted November 30, 2021 Share #12 Posted November 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Wow was is a beotch getting going again The older you get.... it's more difficult to get going again. I used to ride nearly all year. I'd quit when it got below 30F. I was worried about black ice on the roads. That can be very surprising some times when you don't expect it. Now... I just skip riding in the winter. The older I get... it seems like I don't want to deal with the cold on a ride. 3 hours ago, Mr Beanz said: I have tried to encourage people to walk. But they make excuses, I walk 50 yards then I get tired. Yeah.... WoBG and I walk our dogs just about every day all year, 1 1/2 miles is average for most. Over the years 3 to 5 miles are easy with our dogs, this happens more often in the colder weather. One of WoBG's friends... she complains it's too hot in the summer to walk and complains it too cold in the winter to walk. So... she never walks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted November 30, 2021 Share #13 Posted November 30, 2021 This summer when I finally went out to ride..it was terrible..yeah I work out..but that is so different from cycling...I did less than 10 miles and felt like crap. Going to have to start all over. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 30, 2021 Share #14 Posted November 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bikeguy said: One of WoBG's friends... she complains it's too hot in the summer to walk and complains it too cold in the winter to walk. So... she never walks. There usually is that one day in the fall when it’s just right. She should walk that day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Longjohn ★ Posted November 30, 2021 Solution Share #15 Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, petitepedal said: This summer when I finally went out to ride..it was terrible..yeah I work out..but that is so different from cycling...I did less than 10 miles and felt like crap. Going to have to start all over. You need a new bike. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted November 30, 2021 Share #16 Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Longjohn said: There usually is that one day in the fall when it’s just right. She should walk that day. I'd bet... after less than a mile (or even 1/2 mile) she turn around to go home to rest. A few weeks ago some friends who we know hike on trails wanted to hike with us at a local state park. WoBG was worried that we would never be able to stay with them on the hike. I told her.... don't worry... we will be just fine. I use my Garmin watch for walks / hikes. We were about 3 miles out from the lodge, and WoBG suggested a trail that would have added 2 more miles out. The other couple wanted to turn around, and that's what we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 30, 2021 Share #17 Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Bikeguy said: The older you get.... it's more difficult to get going again. I used to ride nearly all year. I'd quit when it got below 30F. I was worried about black ice on the roads. That can be very surprising some times when you don't expect it. Now... I just skip riding in the winter. The older I get... it seems like I don't want to deal with the cold on a ride. Yeah.... WoBG and I walk our dogs just about every day all year, 1 1/2 miles is average for most. Over the years 3 to 5 miles are easy with our dogs, this happens more often in the colder weather. One of WoBG's friends... she complains it's too hot in the summer to walk and complains it too cold in the winter to walk. So... she never walks. It was too cold and dark last night, around 40. I guess it is all relative, because in another month or so 40 will sound pretty darn nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share #18 Posted November 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Randomguy said: How is every day not a mutli-thousand calorie day? It isn't hard to eat two thousand calories, you know. Yeah - probably "many" thousand calorie days was more accurate. Normal is 2,000 to 2,500, so easily just that on my first plate! 10 hours ago, Square Wheels said: Seeing PT. What does Pete Townshend know that we don't??? Is this guitar related? 9 hours ago, Bikeguy said: The older you get.... it's more difficult to get going again. it seems like I don't want to deal with the cold on a ride. The cold is definitely an issue of sorts. It really wasn't horrible - upper 40s/lower50s, but that is "transition temp" so I was likely overdressed, facing crosswinds, and denser air It "felt" tougher & less pleasant, but looking at the numbers, not a "bad" ride with plenty rides with crummier stats, so a lot was in my head. 9 hours ago, Longjohn said: You need a new bike. Pretty much the universal answer. Damn things are hard to get these days. 7 hours ago, Philander Seabury said: It was too cold and dark last night, around 40. I guess it is all relative, because in another month or so 40 will sound pretty darn nice! Yep - it is all relative, I guess. @denniS is happy to get highs in the 50s in mid-summer and here I am complaining it is down to low 50s in November! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupw Posted November 30, 2021 Share #19 Posted November 30, 2021 My exercise has been limited to clearing out the house lately. Just as well the wind has been awful the last couple weekends. I had planned to walk/ride more at lunch, but that has been when I am talking to realtor/finance people or taking donations to the crisis center or Goodwill, etc. My brother and SIL are here this week helping with packing and long some things around the house. They are retired so it allows me to keep working. Making sure they are fed at lunchtime and getting a chance to visit. Maybe next week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share #20 Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, groupw said: My exercise has been limited to clearing out the house lately. Just as well the wind has been awful the last couple weekends. I had planned to walk/ride more at lunch, but that has been when I am talking to realtor/finance people or taking donations to the crisis center or Goodwill, etc. My brother and SIL are here this week helping with packing and long some things around the house. They are retired so it allows me to keep working. Making sure they are fed at lunchtime and getting a chance to visit. Maybe next week You have an "excuse" I gotta think you may have a broader window for near year-round outdoor exercise coming your way. My big "gaps" in exercise this year were moving related - packing and moving temporarily to CA and then the reverse trip. On my vacations, I generally still get lots of exercise, but Thanksgiving is always a mess as it is usually as much travel and eating as it is free time to do anything else. You'll get your play time back, but moving a home is a PITA!! And unpacking, too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted November 30, 2021 Share #21 Posted November 30, 2021 As I've aged I strain muscles more often, and they take longer to heal. What was a day off 30 years ago now takes weeks and never really gets back to 100%, very discouraging 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted December 1, 2021 Share #22 Posted December 1, 2021 14 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Yeah - probably "many" thousand calorie days was more accurate. Normal is 2,000 to 2,500, so easily just that on my first plate! What does Pete Townshend know that we don't??? Is this guitar related? The cold is definitely an issue of sorts. It really wasn't horrible - upper 40s/lower50s, but that is "transition temp" so I was likely overdressed, facing crosswinds, and denser air It "felt" tougher & less pleasant, but looking at the numbers, not a "bad" ride with plenty rides with crummier stats, so a lot was in my head. Pretty much the universal answer. Damn things are hard to get these days. Yep - it is all relative, I guess. @denniS is happy to get highs in the 50s in mid-summer and here I am complaining it is down to low 50s in November! It is way too warm here. We have very little snow. Nov. 11, 2020, we were fatbiking and skiing. Nov. 25, 2021, the view from 8k'. It's not good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted December 1, 2021 Share #23 Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, denniS said: It is way too warm here. We have very little snow. Nov. 11, 2020, we were fatbiking and skiing. Nov. 25, 2021, the view from 8k'. It's not good. Now we are really fucked if climate change has finally caught up with Jackson Hole. Ruby and I walked tonight and 41 with no wind was perfectly fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted December 1, 2021 Share #24 Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 7:19 PM, Bikeguy said: The older you get.... it's more difficult to get going again. Yes. I have noticed this from injuries later in life. A week feels like I have been off for a month. It's painful. Honestly, I think the pain part of it is why people stop. Very excited that today will likely be no ice on the road. Cold in the morning but then 50's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share #25 Posted December 1, 2021 8 hours ago, denniS said: Nov. 25, 2021, the view from 8k'. It's not good. Well, the "view" is great, but the snow amounts are paltry! Hoping you get a few big dumpers before xmas! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted December 1, 2021 Share #26 Posted December 1, 2021 I certainly understand it. It takes time. Tonight is a perfect example. I am up by 4:10, out the door at 4:20. Work 5-5. Will get back to the house in time to change for Emmy's basketball game. We'll be there until 8:00 and home by 8:30, fix and eat dinner and hopefully to bed by 10:00. Not every day is like that, but there are a bunch of days that look just like that. Hard to fit it all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted December 1, 2021 Share #27 Posted December 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Dirtyhip said: Very excited that today will likely be no ice on the road. That was one reason I didn't like riding the roads in the winter. Especially where trees shade the road from the sun. More than a few times I thought the road was wet... nope... black ice. I just rode it out until I was on dry pavement again. The other thing I hate during a winter ride... is the salt/chemicals they treat the roads with for snow and ice. A car would drive by and leave me in a cloud of chemical dust. Not breathing helped for a bit... eventually I had to breath again... yeah that stuff is nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted December 2, 2021 Share #28 Posted December 2, 2021 I become a couch potato between 1 hour walks or (even shorter this year) bike rides. I need to get up and, at least, take a walk in the huge park that begins a block from my house each day if I'm not doing other active stuff. Of course, I've learned from recent past experience that I have to gradually work my way into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted December 2, 2021 Share #29 Posted December 2, 2021 I just lowered my steps goal to 4000 for the winter. That is a one mile walk through the neighborhood on top of miscellaneous movement. Mowing the lawn accounted for a lot this summer when my goal was 6000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted December 2, 2021 Share #30 Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Philander Seabury said: I just lowered my steps goal to 4000 for the winter. That is a one mile walk through the neighborhood on top of miscellaneous movement. Mowing the lawn accounted for a lot this summer when my goal was 6000. Doesn't everyone get at least that many just living? I mean if you wear your watch all day. When I wore my watch religiously, I was easily getting 10,000 a day. Although, I am very hyper most of the time. Ask @Scrapr how I act right before a MTB ride. HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted December 2, 2021 Share #31 Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Dirtyhip said: Doesn't everyone get at least that many just living? I mean if you wear your watch all day. When I wore my watch religiously, I was easily getting 10,000 a day. Although, I am very hyper most of the time. Ask @Scrapr how I act right before a MTB ride. HAHA I am… non-hyper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share #32 Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Dirtyhip said: Doesn't everyone get at least that many just living? I doubt it. I can vary from a few thousand to 30,000+ depending upon circumstances. If I take a walk at lunch, boom 10,000. If it is raining and the dog won't walk, it is a work day, and I am WFH, boom 1,000-2,000 may sneak in. I know it has been a shit day when I am super restless at dinner time. If I'm on vacation, and have a whole day to explore? Easily 20,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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