TrentonMakes Posted October 3, 2022 Share #1 Posted October 3, 2022 Fed up with Company A, you interviewed with and got a job offer from Company B. But when you submitted your resignation, Company A pulled out all the stops and sweet talked you into staying. How did that go? Asking for a friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted October 3, 2022 Share #2 Posted October 3, 2022 What if you want a raise, but you have no Company B. Is it worth risking your job at Company A. Our company often will give a counteroffer to those jumping ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted October 3, 2022 Share #3 Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, TrentonMakes said: Fed up with Company A, you interviewed with and got a job offer from Company B. But when you submitted your resignation, Company A pulled out all the stops and sweet talked you into staying. How did that go? Asking for a friend. Wilbur said stuff it. You said "Show me the Money!" Oui or non? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted October 3, 2022 This is almost solely about workload and stress. I'd gladly take a pay cut if it reduces both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted October 3, 2022 Share #5 Posted October 3, 2022 If the friend was fed up with company A, I would think he would not want to stay. He would want to be the boogie woogie bugle boy of company B! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wilbur ★ Posted October 3, 2022 Popular Post Share #6 Posted October 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, TrentonMakes said: Fed up with Company A, you interviewed with and got a job offer from Company B. But when you submitted your resignation, Company A pulled out all the stops and sweet talked you into staying. How did that go? Asking for a friend. At the sound advice of TK. I stayed the course and went to company B. That was the best decision ever. Funnily enough, the founder of company A just offered me an insane salary to be VP of Flight Operations for his airline. Basically 3 times what I make now and tax free. I rejected that offer too. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Airehead Posted October 3, 2022 Popular Post Share #7 Posted October 3, 2022 Things will go right to bad at A. If they really valued you, they would do all the things before you thought about quitting. I would continue negotiating with B 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted October 3, 2022 Share #8 Posted October 3, 2022 If your friend had tried to talk to Company A about issues, and they didn't make real efforts to address until your friend decided to leave, I'd be wary that any promised changes would last or that they'd be responsive to future issues. Also, some people will see someone who planned to leave as less loyal and there could be implications down the road. I know people who've left a company and later went back and did fine, so it's not always the case, but there is usually a reason someone wants to leave. But change is hard and you never really know what you're getting at a new place. Wilbur was fortunate because he'd already been at the new place when the old one tried to hire him back, so he knew what the "other side" was. With a new job you don't know that, but you try to get the best feeling you can and trust that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted October 3, 2022 Popular Post Share #9 Posted October 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Wilbur said: At the sound advice of TK. Just so you know, I got that advice from a counseling documentary: 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted October 3, 2022 Share #10 Posted October 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, TrentonMakes said: How did that go? Asking for a friend. They will employ you until they find someone cheaper, who they can convince themselves can almost do your job as well as you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JerrySTL ★ Posted October 3, 2022 Popular Post Share #11 Posted October 3, 2022 Never accept a counter offer. Company A will now consider your friend 'disloyal' and if someone has to be shit on, it will be your friend. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted October 3, 2022 Share #12 Posted October 3, 2022 You already made up your mind. IMO you have more integrity than to jump back just for dollars. I did that on a number of occasions in my life and consequently the dollars were never quite what they should have been but the work and companies were great. Until they got bought. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted October 4, 2022 Share #13 Posted October 4, 2022 Why did it take you giving notice before company A recognize you?? I’d stay the course. Actually I was in this situation early in my career and left anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post groupw Posted October 4, 2022 Popular Post Share #14 Posted October 4, 2022 Generally a move is as much about conditions as pay. Even if offered more from the old company, the rock in the shoe remains. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted October 4, 2022 Share #15 Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, JerrySTL said: Never accept a counter offer. Company A will now consider your friend 'disloyal' and if someone has to be shit on, it will be your friend. THIS.... 4 hours ago, TrentonMakes said: But when you submitted your resignation, Company A pulled out all the stops and sweet talked you into staying. Your friend had reasons to leave Company A. I'd suggest the root cause of those reasons probably didn't change. Unless of course the offer was lots of money. Then again,.. what Jerry said will happen and they will find ways to make it painful for your friend. By then Company B will no longer need you. 4 hours ago, TrentonMakes said: This is almost solely about workload and stress. I solved that... I retired. Best thing I did. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted October 4, 2022 Share #16 Posted October 4, 2022 They didn't think highly enough to pay your friend what he was worth, and they certainly will do the same when convenient for them once again. Your friend is an afterthought there, first on the chopping block, first to get the crap projects that take forever and are like pulling teeth. Your friend needs to bail right away. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zephyr Posted October 4, 2022 Popular Post Share #17 Posted October 4, 2022 From 32 years inside a company with unlimited transfer/ change options, one common theme you often hear is 'A change is as good as a rest'. Sometimes a change can be quite refreshing and invigorating 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted October 4, 2022 Share #18 Posted October 4, 2022 15 hours ago, TrentonMakes said: Fed up with Company A, Why was your friend fed up with company A? If it was just because he didn’t think he was being paid what he was worth maybe the company recognized the error of their ways. If it for other reasons offering you more money to stay wouldn’t solve the problem. Being a blue collar worker I was never really in your friend’s situation but with my type of work the longer I stayed the more benefits and job security I acquired. I also earned the respect of my employers and supervisors. Really not comparable to your friend’s situation but that’s all I got. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted October 4, 2022 Share #19 Posted October 4, 2022 If the problem is money, more money seldom fixes that problem, just changes it a bit. If the problem is job satisfaction, and they have not addressed the issues before, then your friend should be concerned. Also, they chose not to pay your friend what they think he or she is worth until they decided to leave. This is a concern. If your friend feels that the atmosphere at the new location is more conducive to personal peace and satisfaction, and the compensation is greater, I think your friend should make the move. We recently gave a programmer a good sized raise and he still decided to make a change for lifestyle reasons. Slower paced, smaller city closer to family, We tried the big raise and incentives and that still could not get him to stay. Housing costs are beginning to be an issue in Texas. This was not the case in the past. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted October 4, 2022 Share #20 Posted October 4, 2022 18 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: Just so you know, I got that advice from a counseling documentary: Was your under graduate degree pre med by any chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted October 4, 2022 Share #21 Posted October 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, jsharr said: Was your under graduate degree pre med by any chance? Pre-law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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