Square Wheels Posted September 26, 2017 Share #1 Posted September 26, 2017 Still makes me sad. http://forums.bicycling.com/topic/important-news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 26, 2017 Share #2 Posted September 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 26, 2017 Share #3 Posted September 26, 2017 I hope no one goes over there and says anything negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted September 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Road Runner said: I hope no one goes over there and says anything negative. I agree, that is not why I posted that. It makes me sad. That place is how I met almost everyone here. It's where I turned when I was first learning about cycling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted September 26, 2017 Share #5 Posted September 26, 2017 You called it... I wonder if some of the LF faithful will cross over. This is a great place and thanks for creating it but I do miss the good ole days when the Bicycling forums were a vibrant place. I learned a lot from folks like Velobro, Monkey and Doc Raigarn and many others. Some of the dust ups were epic as well. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted September 26, 2017 Share #6 Posted September 26, 2017 I've joined a dozen or so internet forums since then, but the BLF was my first and they say you never forget your first. Hm. I wonder if there are any parallels to real life in that statement. This news doesn't make me sad, compared to the sadness I felt when I realized the LF wasn't the fun place I remembered (not even judging based on the technical issues). Those were certainly good times, and so many interesting people along the way. I wish them well (most of them anyway). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 26, 2017 Share #7 Posted September 26, 2017 I pinned it so all of the old LF people would see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted September 26, 2017 Share #8 Posted September 26, 2017 Between their crappy software and their forum bullies it was bound to happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted September 26, 2017 Share #9 Posted September 26, 2017 Am I correct in observing that this was posted at the LF an hour ago and no one has commented? I didn't realize it was that much of a ghost town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted September 26, 2017 Share #10 Posted September 26, 2017 I kept posting for awhile, but eventually the software just made it too hard for me to log on. But I agree, I learned a lot about pro racing tactics from Gavia, and I met a lot of people who became friends both online and in real life. Makes me even happier that you founded this place, SW. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted September 26, 2017 Share #11 Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, TrentonMakes said: Am I correct in observing that this was posted at the LF an hour ago and no one has commented? I didn't realize it was that much of a ghost town. Although I can't connect on my cell I check the site every few days and there is very little activity. Been that way for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted September 26, 2017 Share #12 Posted September 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, Longjohn said: Between their crappy software and their forum bullies it was bound to happen One person in particular soured me on the place andeven though I have log in issues I dont bother trying to log in as Im sick of that dude. I'm sure a few others left as well because of him... I'd love to see Donkpow, Tom, Torch, 12 String and a few of the 9ther hold outs over here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted September 26, 2017 Share #13 Posted September 26, 2017 I usually stop in to lurk over there once every 2 to 3 weeks. Posting activity seems to have continued to slow. This afternoon it's a ghost town except for one post from somebody called Tim Burr. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted September 26, 2017 Share #14 Posted September 26, 2017 55 minutes ago, TrentonMakes said: Am I correct in observing that this was posted at the LF an hour ago and no one has commented? I didn't realize it was that much of a ghost town. The post is locked, no comments allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted September 26, 2017 Share #15 Posted September 26, 2017 53 minutes ago, ChrisL said: Although I can't connect on my cell I check the site every few days and there is very little activity. Been that way for a while. Connectivity with mobile devices works now, I found that out last week after months of not bothering to try. Ironic they they fixed that now after allowing it to die on the vine for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted September 26, 2017 Share #16 Posted September 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: The post is locked, no comments allowed. Yes, but members are free to post other topics in which they may comment, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 26, 2017 Share #17 Posted September 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, TrentonMakes said: Yes, but members are free to post other topics in which they may comment, yes? Yes. I just made two posts. Nobody is there though. Apparently, they are migrating to Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted September 26, 2017 Share #18 Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Road Runner said: Yes. I just made two posts. Nobody is there though. Apparently, they are migrating to Facebook. And they were marvelous. Your community ranking is on the rise! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 26, 2017 Share #19 Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Prophet Zacharia said: And they were marvelous. Your community ranking is on the rise! I know. I guess Tim will never get under 200 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge ★ Posted September 26, 2017 Share #20 Posted September 26, 2017 Well, they've been invited to come here... Invite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 26, 2017 Share #21 Posted September 26, 2017 Shit! I wonder if all our past pearls of wisdom will be lost in the bit bucket, or will they be cast before the Facebook swine. I gotta fire up the dredge, dangit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge ★ Posted September 26, 2017 Share #22 Posted September 26, 2017 It says they cannot transfer everything to FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 26, 2017 Share #23 Posted September 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, smudge said: It says they cannot transfer everything to FB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Come Lately Name Posted September 26, 2017 Share #24 Posted September 26, 2017 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted September 26, 2017 Share #25 Posted September 26, 2017 45 minutes ago, smudge said: It says they cannot transfer everything to FB. Now Thready will never come back to life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 26, 2017 Share #26 Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Kirby said: Now Thready will never come back to life. Nope, because my login doesn;t work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted September 26, 2017 Share #27 Posted September 26, 2017 Please someone save the posts from when Mrs. Par8 was having Em and @Parr8hed was writing on the forum.. I promised Emmie I would read it at her wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 26, 2017 Share #28 Posted September 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, Airehead said: Please someone save the posts from when Mrs. Par8 was having Em and @Parr8hed was writing on the forum.. I promised Emmie I would read it at her wedding. Dates? Edit: NM. I found it. 10/11/07. http://forums.bicycling.com/topic/54635607123283418 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted September 26, 2017 Share #29 Posted September 26, 2017 Honestly, I don't understand what all the Hoop.la is about... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 26, 2017 Share #30 Posted September 26, 2017 My laptop is still logged in - yay! Took the opportunity to bump a post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted September 26, 2017 Share #31 Posted September 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Dates? Edit: NM. I found it. 10/11/07. http://forums.bicycling.com/topic/54635607123283418 And we need the one right before that when Mrs. Parr8 was in labor and @Parr8hed was writing about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted September 27, 2017 Share #32 Posted September 27, 2017 That place used to be great! Then they had too many software upgrades that either failed or were much worse than the previous software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 27, 2017 Share #33 Posted September 27, 2017 29 minutes ago, Airehead said: And we need the one right before that when Mrs. Parr8 was in labor and @Parr8hed was writing about it This one? "No News Yet" http://forums.bicycling.com/topic/54635607129796716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted September 27, 2017 Share #34 Posted September 27, 2017 Yes this is it thanks. It is a wonder she did not kil him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share #35 Posted September 27, 2017 I suspect when they turn it they will close it also, all posts gone forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted September 27, 2017 Share #36 Posted September 27, 2017 It was the best of times...It was the worst of times....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted September 27, 2017 Share #37 Posted September 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Airehead said: Yes this is it thanks. It is a wonder she did not kil him. Ok @Airehead, I need to say this. Don't save the link. Save the content. I felt I needed to say that just in case..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 27, 2017 Share #38 Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Ok @Airehead, I need to say this. Don't save the link. Save the content. I felt I needed to say that just in case..... Bitbuckets are sad. I lost a lot of pics when the MSN Bicyling pic post site disappeared abruptly ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted September 27, 2017 Share #39 Posted September 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, JerrySTL said: That place used to be great! Then they had too many software upgrades that either failed or were much worse than the previous software. It became obvious (it seemed to me anyway) that years ago Rodale had no real interest in their forums. The evidence was the shift to the newer software that was more difficult to use, the lack of responsiveness to suggestions or complaints, and the lack of concern when people fled their forums for other places with no effort to regain them. Nominally, one would think Rodale's business goal was to keep people engaged in their forums and thus keep them close to their products and close to their advertisers. If that were indeed the case, they would have designed and maintained their websites for seamless and intuitive use. But everything Rodale did appeared to ignore that 'common sense' line of thought; to use the traditional business principles that attract and keep those who have the disposable income that fuels the profitability of a business. Which is, after all, the whole reason for being in business because without profitability a business ceases to exist. So if Rodale's behavior ran contrary to accepted business practices for building a profitable company, then it is natural to ask the question 'What is driving their behavior?' A possible (and perhaps the only) logical conclusion is that Rodale decided the forums were not crucial to their business success and deserved no significant investment of resources. In fact their behavior indicates they'd essentially given up on the forums but were keeping them as a 'legacy' product, the kind of product that generates a little revenue with virtually no attention. And to a company that is flopping like a fish, even a little revenue for next to no effort is better than a stick in the eye. I saw it not as problem in and of itself, but as a symptom indicating Rodale was in trouble. When a magazine publishing company turns its back on one of its electronic outlets for reaching potential customers and for keeping the ones it has, that is to me an indication that management has priorities improperly ordered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted September 27, 2017 Share #40 Posted September 27, 2017 I could not log in...my old e-mail address may be dead dead dead..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 27, 2017 Share #41 Posted September 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Ok @Airehead, I need to say this. Don't save the link. Save the content. I felt I needed to say that just in case..... Very true. Save the text. That link won't work a few days from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted September 27, 2017 Share #42 Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Airehead said: And we need the one right before that when Mrs. Parr8 was in labor and @Parr8hed was writing about it Do we have the ones from the night when Em was conceived? That's a classic. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 27, 2017 Share #43 Posted September 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: It became obvious (it seemed to me anyway) that years ago Rodale had no real interest in their forums. The evidence was the shift to the newer software that was more difficult to use, the lack of responsiveness to suggestions or complaints, and the lack of concern when people fled their forums for other places with no effort to regain them. Nominally, one would think Rodale's business goal was to keep people engaged in their forums and thus keep them close to their products and close to their advertisers. If that were indeed the case, they would have designed and maintained their websites for seamless and intuitive use. But everything Rodale did appeared to ignore that 'common sense' line of thought; to use the traditional business principles that attract and keep those who have the disposable income that fuels the profitability of a business. Which is, after all, the whole reason for being in business because without profitability a business ceases to exist. So if Rodale's behavior ran contrary to accepted business practices for building a profitable company, then it is natural to ask the question 'What is driving their behavior?' A possible (and perhaps the only) logical conclusion is that Rodale decided the forums were not crucial to their business success and deserved no significant investment of resources. In fact their behavior indicates they'd essentially given up on the forums but were keeping them as a 'legacy' product, the kind of product that generates a little revenue with virtually no attention. And to a company that is flopping like a fish, even a little revenue for next to no effort is better than a stick in the eye. I saw it not as problem in and of itself, but as a symptom indicating Rodale was in trouble. When a magazine publishing company turns its back on one of its electronic outlets for reaching potential customers and for keeping the ones it has, that is to me an indication that management has priorities improperly ordered. It's a shame because I loved the old Rodale and the original Organic Gardening mag. Even Bicycling mag used to be good, I swear! Now I have looked through a little of Men's Health and PRevention and found them to be at least better than Bicycling. It is pretty nice that at least they kept unbroken posts all the way back to 2006. Oh well. Change is inevitable, but still usually bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Come Lately Name Posted September 27, 2017 Share #44 Posted September 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: When a magazine publishing company turns its back on one of its electronic outlets for reaching potential customers and for keeping the ones it has, that is to me an indication that management has priorities improperly ordered. Considering they let the magazine - its core business was dead tree publishing - go down the crapper, it's no surprise they treated the forum like a case of the clap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted September 27, 2017 Share #45 Posted September 27, 2017 Wow, that brings back memories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted September 27, 2017 Share #46 Posted September 27, 2017 While I haven't really posted there in sometime, still sad to see it go. Truly the end of an era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 27, 2017 Share #47 Posted September 27, 2017 You know what? I am not sad that it is gone, and I will tell you why. First, the forum I know was gone a long time ago, so I mourned its loss a long ways back. Second, this was a mercy killing, Rodale was shirley going to do this anyway, so it is a good thing to finally get it done. Third, most people are already here, and the ones that didn't come over now have another opportunity to rejoin civilized society. So it is good all the way around, yay! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted September 27, 2017 Share #48 Posted September 27, 2017 13 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: It became obvious (it seemed to me anyway) that years ago Rodale had no real interest in their forums. The evidence was the shift to the newer software that was more difficult to use, the lack of responsiveness to suggestions or complaints, and the lack of concern when people fled their forums for other places with no effort to regain them. Nominally, one would think Rodale's business goal was to keep people engaged in their forums and thus keep them close to their products and close to their advertisers. So from a business perspective why should they care? They have a subscription base of how many? ( I have no idea but it's many many). They sell how many copies on the newsstand every month? Many more. The BI forum was an active group for a few handfuls at any one time. The forum community represented a small handful of numbers that complained about the company and made fun of the magazine. I would not want them representing my subscriber base. My opinion is the forum should have been launched long ago. It supported neither their physical magazine or the online version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Maynard Posted September 27, 2017 Share #49 Posted September 27, 2017 14 hours ago, Road Runner said: Very true. Save the text. That link won't work a few days from now. You can also try using a web archive service such as http://web.archive.org/ You can initiate an archive of a page through their site. I've never tried it with message board pages. There might be some reason it won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted September 28, 2017 Share #50 Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/27/2017 at 7:56 AM, Parr8hed said: Wow, that brings back memories. The mention of the Clap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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