Square Wheels Posted January 5, 2021 Share #1 Posted January 5, 2021 I can get my first does effective today. I'm still leery. Do you plan to get it when you're eligible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted January 5, 2021 Share #2 Posted January 5, 2021 no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bunch of numbers Posted January 5, 2021 Share #3 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes, absolutely. Leery of what exactly? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 5, 2021 Share #4 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #5 Posted January 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: I can get my first does effective today. I'm still leery. Do you plan to get it when you're eligible? The sooner the better! Ignorance is bliss to some, but generally is frowned upon. Feel free to make excuses for things - people do everyday - but be aware they are just unfounded excuses. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #6 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 5, 2021 Share #7 Posted January 5, 2021 You tell me where to go and I'll be there. Then you can get the biggest needle you can find and stick me right in the hind end. I don't even care what is in the syringe. That's just how I roll. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted January 5, 2021 Share #8 Posted January 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: I can get my first does effective today. I'm still leery. Do you plan to get it when you're eligible? Leery, too. I think I’m eligible next month. Haven’t decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted January 5, 2021 Share #9 Posted January 5, 2021 No, I don’t plan on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Old Guy Posted January 5, 2021 Share #10 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes. But if a miracle should happen and the numbers of new viral infections should take a significant downturn prior to my eligibility to receive the vaccine, I might consider foregoing it. I just heard someone on my local news say that it will likely be a number of months before vaccinations of the main population (standard or low risk) will begin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #11 Posted January 5, 2021 YES!!!!! Get it! Nothing to fear but a sore arm. You can handle that. I'm getting my second shot next Monday. I can't wait. I'll be happy to be fully vaccinated. YESS!!!! YESSSS!!!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #12 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 5, 2021 Share #13 Posted January 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, smudge said: YES!!!!! Get it! Nothing to fear but a sore arm. You can handle that. I'm getting my second shot next Monday. I can't wait. I'll be happy to be fully vaccinated. YESS!!!! YESSSS!!!! Good. Then you'll be ready to storm the castle. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #14 Posted January 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, Taylor said: Yes. But if a miracle should happen and the numbers of new viral infections should take a significant downturn prior to my eligibility to receive the vaccine, I might consider foregoing it. I just heard someone on my local news say that it will likely be a number of months before vaccinations of the main population (standard or low risk) will begin. Dallas County is getting 2,000 doses a day. Population of the county is 2.63 million, so it will take 44 months to get everyone their first round if we go 7 days per week at that rate. I do not live in Dallas County. My county has slightly more than 1 million residents and the state shows that 12,417 have been vaccinated so far, so again, I do not expect to get a chance for at least a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #15 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes but I'd like to get it earlier if anyone ahead of me is refusing it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 5, 2021 Share #16 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes, of course. Just like I would get a tetanus shot, a rabies shot for my pet, and do normal MMR vaccines if I had a kid. Vaccines save lives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #17 Posted January 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, jsharr said: I do not expect to get a chance for at least a year. Out of curiosity, are you assuming the same level of effort and prioritization of resources for the rest of the year? If so, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #18 Posted January 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: Out of curiosity, are you assuming the same level of effort and prioritization of resources for the rest of the year? If so, why? Government and history. They will improve but it will still be worse than what Amazon could have done for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #19 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share #20 Posted January 5, 2021 48 minutes ago, smudge said: Nothing to fear but a sore arm. What if the mRNA forgets how to stop replicating? 15 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Vaccines save lives. True 1 hour ago, Rick5234 said: Leery of what exactly? A never user before vaccine, rushed to market, and not cleared by FDA. What could go wrong? Thalidomide? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Maynard Posted January 5, 2021 Share #21 Posted January 5, 2021 Maybe once the normal time frame for a new vaccine approval has passed. Not these rushed PsOS that could have people growing 2 heads in a couple of months. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #22 Posted January 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Out of curiosity, are you assuming the same level of effort and prioritization of resources for the rest of the year? If so, why? yes, because it is the only number I have. I realize it is flawed logic and that production will ramp up, other vaccine sources will come online, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Maynard Posted January 5, 2021 Share #23 Posted January 5, 2021 According to this NYT article, the normal development cycle would see the general population getting the vaccine in 2033. But I'm sure nothing was missed in the rush to market... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/30/opinion/coronavirus-covid-vaccine.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #24 Posted January 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Government and history. They will improve but it will still be worse than what Amazon could have done for us. I would love to see what would happen if Amazon was in charge of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted January 5, 2021 Share #25 Posted January 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: What if the mRNA forgets how to stop replicating? True A never user before vaccine, rushed to market, and not cleared by FDA. What could go wrong? Thalidomide? Appreciate the concern, squarewheels....since the 2 different vaccines have not yet had a long testing trials...meaning a number of years. I have mixed concerns but at my age I have to get over it. I'm not pregnant/nor plan to be pregnant, I've so far lived a highly productive life compared to someone who is 5 years old or 25 years or 45 old. I've had the benefit of experiencing life without covid restrictions and have been vaccinated against smallpox, polio, TB, measles and tentanus (though some of all this may have worn off by now). For sure, I'm super glad not to be pregnant nor want to be pregnant in near future and worry about vaccine after effects. Alot of us are like me: we've been incredibly fortunate to experience life for past few decades of our lives, without current covid restrictions. We've been able to travel freely in the past, work with other people in person, have fun with other people without deadly unknown infectious disease concerns,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted January 5, 2021 Share #26 Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, jsharr said: I would love to see what would happen if Amazon was in charge of this! Doctors, nurses and medical researchers are more risk adverse...which also slows down things. They are trained to be abit more risk adverse and to be slower. They are more diligent and slower in their procedures and for sure, they would not be rushed. Nurses also have to deal with anxious/nervous patients receiving a needle. Amazon would lose patience to have each patient sit around for an extra 15-30 min. for any post-needle emergency extreme reaction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #27 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes, but others can go first, I don’t mind waiting. Not out of fear, but I’m not a first responder. I’m of a certain risk category, but as a quiet introvert, I’m liking the lifestyle so far. In mid-March we are due for our second shingles vaccine. That’s next on my vaccine scorecard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #28 Posted January 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: What if the mRNA forgets how to stop replicating? That’s the big question. There is no reverse for this. Vaccinating all the health professionals is dangerous business. I might take the chance if offered, I’m not convinced it’s safe but I lived a good life. Not sure how much longer I have (nobody does). There are no plans to make house calls with this vaccine so my wife will be unable to get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share #29 Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, Longjohn said: There are no plans to make house calls with this vaccine so my wife will be unable to get it. If you can keep her exposures to a minimum, ideally 0, she should be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 5, 2021 Share #30 Posted January 5, 2021 At this point, nobody is dying of the vaccine yet, and very few people have grown useful and practical flippers, a sexy third boob, or developed superpowers. Your call. I am gonna get it when it is my turn, though, and you know how I hate flu shots. Vaccines that work are a different story, especially if you consider that YOU getting vaccinated may save someone's life, on presumption that you possibly could be asymptomatic for a few days if you pick up covid. If I had the early option, I would get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share #31 Posted January 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: I am gonna get it when it is my turn, though, and you know how I hate flu shots. Vaccines that work are a different story, especially if you consider that YOU getting vaccinated may save someone's life, on presumption that you possibly could be asymptomatic for a few days if you pick up covid. Not sure the efficacy of this will ultimately be much better than the flu shot. Covid needs time to start mutating. You getting the flu shot will help protect others also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted January 5, 2021 Share #32 Posted January 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Longjohn said: That’s the big question. There is no reverse for this. Vaccinating all the health professionals is dangerous business. I might take the chance if offered, I’m not convinced it’s safe but I lived a good life. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #33 Posted January 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: If you can keep her exposures to a minimum, ideally 0, she should be safe. A life without grandkids is no life and I need help caring for my wife. The other care givers also work with covid patients. We only see our grandkids about once a month. We are careful but we won’t/can’t completely isolate ourselves. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2021 Share #34 Posted January 5, 2021 Nay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted January 5, 2021 Share #35 Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, smudge said: YES!!!!! Get it! Nothing to fear but a sore arm. You can handle that. I'm getting my second shot next Monday. I can't wait. I'll be happy to be fully vaccinated. YESS!!!! YESSSS!!!! You realize it could make you sterile, don’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupw Posted January 5, 2021 Share #36 Posted January 5, 2021 Yep. WoW got her first shot last week. She works in scheduling for the hospital. Her arm has been sore but nothing major. I got it once, but the immunity window is small (60-90 days they say). I would prefer not to try my luck a 2nd time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share #37 Posted January 5, 2021 Way off the mark, but another great time in USA healthcare. https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #38 Posted January 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Square Wheels said: Way off the mark, but another great time in USA healthcare. https://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm CDC isn't a good source! They're the "bad" guys, so whatever they claim must be considered false, inaccurate and/or misleading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizeye Posted January 5, 2021 Share #39 Posted January 5, 2021 Been there, done that...or halfway at least. Now hoping that politicians follow science and don't implement one of the self serving hair brain theories altering protocol before my second dose on Jan 27. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #40 Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Square Wheels said: What if the mRNA forgets how to stop replicating? True A never user before vaccine, rushed to market, and not cleared by FDA. What could go wrong? Thalidomide? You have to balance the what if's of the vaccine against the what if's of the virus. You pays your money and you takes your choice. If you think you might be getting pregnant soon than that's part of the equation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted January 5, 2021 Share #41 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes, although I'm so far down the list and they're moving so slowly, I'll have plenty of time to see how the first people getting it respond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #42 Posted January 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kirby said: Yes, although I'm so far down the list and they're moving so slowly, I'll have plenty of time to see how the first people getting it respond. The thing to look for is how many are still alive when your turn comes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted January 5, 2021 Share #43 Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, smudge said: I'm getting my second shot next Monday. I can't wait. I'll be happy to be fully vaccinated. Me too, exactly. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted January 5, 2021 Share #44 Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, maddmaxx said: The thing to look for is how many are still alive when your turn comes. It’s a natural experiment versus those who did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted January 5, 2021 Share #45 Posted January 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: You have to balance the what if's of the vaccine against the what if's of the virus. You pays your money and you takes your choice. If you think you might be getting pregnant soon than that's part of the equation. I think Wheels would need to get the vaccine and PRAY for a mutation if he hopes to get pregnant. But it’s not going to happen, it’s not going to alter his DNA AT ALL. Sorry @donkpow, no webbed hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted January 5, 2021 Share #46 Posted January 5, 2021 So Ontario obstetricians-gynaecologists, are today allowing covid preventive vaccines to be administered to pregnant women. Ontario ob-gyns push back on policies advising against COVID-19 vaccine for pregnant or breastfeeding women | CBC News I don't know what to say for those pregnant women. There have been rare documented cases in Canada where an Inuit woman just gave birth..and then she contracted covid and died. It was just within last few days.Nunavut woman dies weeks after contracting COVID-19 following childbirth in Winnipeg hospital | CBC News Iqualuit, the capital in Nunavut does not have hospital facilities and expertise to deal with births. So Inuit mothers often are flown to Winnipeg. I believe a different woman in Ontario was in a covid coma but somehow she had to give birth... when she awoke from her coma, she saw her baby for lst time. Her recovery covid symptoms are still quite significantly negative. It wasn't long ago the zika virus which did cause some significant disabilities in babies or at least affected their brain/head development... that was around the time of the Rio Summer Olympics. Is our memory that short? For Pregnant Women | Zika virus | CDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #47 Posted January 5, 2021 From what I read, this vaccine is pretty safe. But it's been a whole shotgun approach and basically the general populace is the test sample. So while I feel it's probably ok I'm going to sit it out for 3-6 months and let the heroes data come in before making that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #48 Posted January 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dottles said: From what I read, this vaccine is pretty safe. But it's been a whole shotgun approach and basically the general populace is the test sample. So while I feel it's probably ok I'm going to sit it out for 3-6 months and let the heroes data come in before making that decision. Keep in touch so we know if your survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlecan ★ Posted January 5, 2021 Share #49 Posted January 5, 2021 Yes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted January 5, 2021 Share #50 Posted January 5, 2021 The vaccine was not actually rushed to market, especially the mRNA ones. An mRNA vaccine is NOT the virus, dead or alive. It is RNA that will teach your immune system how to recognize the virus, and what to do if it sees it. It then builds the mechanism to create antibodies. So, yes, had better hope it WILL keep splitting - that's exactly what it's supposed to do, or you lose your ability to fight the virus. This method of vaccination has been in development since 2005. Since the method was perfected, all that now needs to be done to create an mRNA vaccine is to map the RNA. That was easy, and doesn't take long. And this method has already been used in previous vaccines. It's perfectly safe. The Pfizer is NOT mRNA, so that's a little concerning, but again, advances in science build upon each other, so it's not all that scary that given unlimited resources they were able to achieve this quickly. My daughter got hers already, and threatened the rest of us with bodily harm if ew don't get it. Her BF has declined for now to make doses available to others since he already had the virus. GET THE VACCINE!! It's about saving far more lives than your own. And the economy isn't reopening until we do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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